Winky Wright vs. Felix Trinidad am 14.Mai


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Über Sturms Möglichkeiten im Mittelgewicht zu schreiben, führt uns zwar ziemlich weit vom eigentlichen Thema weg, aber was soll´s. Wenn´s interessant ist.

ODLH ist und bleibt einer der herausragenden Boxer, auch wenn er im Mittelgewicht natürlich nichts zu suchen hat. Einen schwächelnden Oscar zu schlagen, ist für mich noch immer eine Leistung, mit der sich Sturm empfohlen hat. Aber die Kirche im Dorf lassen, trifft den Nagel auf den Kopf. Sturm kann IMO an der Spitze mitreden bzw. hat das Zeug, um in die Verteilung der Gürtel einzugreifen. Das Gefasel von "No 1" und "eigentlicher Weltmeister" ist natürlich Schwachfug. Zu jung? Hmm, andere Boxer haben in dem Alter schon mehrere Titelverteidigungen vorzuweisen. Aber heute werden hoffnungsvolle Talente vorsichtiger aufgebaut, da nach einer Niederlage schon wieder alles vorbei sein kann - und ich meine Niederlagen, die der Boxer auch als solche empfindet. ;) Dennoch könnte ich mir vorstellen, daß auch bei dem Versuch, Sturm einfach mal mit großen Aufgaben wachsen zu lassen, zu Ergebnissen führen könnte, die vielleicht uns alle überraschen. Natürlich wäre Sturm weder gegen Taylor, Tito oder gar Hopkins Favorit.
 

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Joker schrieb:
Über Sturms Möglichkeiten im Mittelgewicht zu schreiben, führt uns zwar ziemlich weit vom eigentlichen Thema weg, aber was soll´s. Wenn´s interessant ist.

ODLH ist und bleibt einer der herausragenden Boxer, auch wenn er im Mittelgewicht natürlich nichts zu suchen hat. Einen schwächelnden Oscar zu schlagen, ist für mich noch immer eine Leistung, mit der sich Sturm empfohlen hat. Aber die Kirche im Dorf lassen, trifft den Nagel auf den Kopf. Sturm kann IMO an der Spitze mitreden bzw. hat das Zeug, um in die Verteilung der Gürtel einzugreifen. Das Gefasel von "No 1" und "eigentlicher Weltmeister" ist natürlich Schwachfug. Zu jung? Hmm, andere Boxer haben in dem Alter schon mehrere Titelverteidigungen vorzuweisen. Aber heute werden hoffnungsvolle Talente vorsichtiger aufgebaut, da nach einer Niederlage schon wieder alles vorbei sein kann - und ich meine Niederlagen, die der Boxer auch als solche empfindet. ;) Dennoch könnte ich mir vorstellen, daß auch bei dem Versuch, Sturm einfach mal mit großen Aufgaben wachsen zu lassen, zu Ergebnissen führen könnte, die vielleicht uns alle überraschen. Natürlich wäre Sturm weder gegen Taylor, Tito oder gar Hopkins Favorit.


führt wirklich etwas weg vom thema, aber ich meinte auch nicht unbedingt sein alter, sondern vielmehr seinen kampfrekord. wieviele kämpfe hat er bisher gemacht? 20 oder 25? hopkins hat weit über 40. Sturm zählt für mich auf jeden fall zu den top 5 im mittelgewicht. natürlich will er jetzt gegen die ganz großen ran, vor allem nach dem kampf gegen de la hoya. ich denke, dass er nach seinem sensationellen jahr 2004 vielleicht ein wenig übermütig wird. nicht dass er bei einem kampf gegen hopkins und tito schwer ko geht und ihn dasselbe schicksal ereignet wie den weichimir. ;)
 

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Winky no longer WBC champ!


The ball has dropped on WBC 154lb champion Winky Wright. Wright was forced to resign his WBC title today to avoid being stripped of his WBC title for accepting a fight with Felix Trinidad instead of facing interim champion Javier Castillejo. Castillejo can now drop the interim moniker and will be recognized as the WBC world champion. He has been ordered to face former champ Ricardo Mayorga in his first defense.

The WBC Board of Governors, however, will vote on the proposal for the Wright-Trinidad fight to be a final elimination bout to determine the WBC's #1-ranked official challenger at 160 pounds.


Quelle: http://www.fightnews.com/


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winky vs. tito

lecker kämpfchen,

hier interessieren mich die einschätzungen, ich habe irgendwie das gefühll, dass der winky das ding eigentlich gewinnt + trinidad dann eine umstrittene punktentscheidung zugesprochen bekommt

ich denke das ding geht mit großer wahrscheinlichkiet über die runden, winky hat nicht die power tito auszuknocken, trinidad hat zwar die power, aber wright hat ein gutes kinn, einen guten jab, schlägt viel + ist einfach ein schlaues köpfchen, allerdings wird er mit seiner power trinidad wohl nicht übermäßig beeindrucken, da muss er ihn schon konstant beackern, insbesondere mit dem jab

wright ist zwar oft ein langweiler im ring, aber der typ ist einfach ein fighter mit herz + hat einfach charisma, hier könnte eine überraschung in der luft liegen, wright hat boxerisch doch mehr zu bieten als mayorga + kann sich auf den stil den gegners einstellen, er ist schlauer + hat ne bessere kondition + wohl auch noch ein bessere nehmerfähigkeiten als der mayorga

trinidad ist einfach ein stampfer, vorgehen, stehen + schlagen, wenn der winky eine gute beinarbeit an den tag legt, kann er den tito imo alt aussehen lassen,

trindidad fehlt die letzte verbindung zwischen beinarbeit und schlag, diese zehntelsenkungen muss wright ausnutzen.

allerdings konnte ich bisher nicht entdecken, dass die beinarbeit von wright ausreichen könnte, da muss mehr kommen, aber ich denke wright ist dazu in der lage

boxen die jetzt eigentlich 10 oder 12 runden?
 
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Trinidad vs Wright - Interview Tito & Trinidad sen.

Sehr schönes und faires Interview. Besonders der Respekt der Wright entgegengebracht wird und der Verzicht auf den üblichen Trash-Talk (siehe Mayweather jr. über Gatti, Toney über Ruiz), gefällt mir gut.

"18.04.05 - What do you think about weighing in on same day as fight?

Papa Trinidad: I think it’s not healthy for fighters to weigh in on the same day as their fight. A lot of fighters get dehydrated to make weight. So you need the 24 hours in order to be in better condition to fight. It’s up to the fighter, and yes, he can jump up twenty pounds if he wants to. But it makes no difference. The most important thing is for the fighter to make weight on the day he has to. It’s up to each person’s body to see how much more weight they need or can gain. After the weigh-in it is not a matter of how much more you gain, but is up to your metabolism.

Winky’s style, can you compare to previous fights?

Papa Trinidad: His stance is different than other fighter we have faced in the past and we cannot compare his style.

Can you explain thoughts going into fighting Winky?

Papa Trinidad: We didn’t base it on his style. We just want to fight the best. Winky is at the top of the world’s boxing elite. He had challenged Tito in the past.. Tito has enough tools to defeat any fighter at this point of his career. Now we have Winky Wright in front of us and we don’t make any observations based on the styles of the fighters that we pick and choose. We’ve always been happy to fight the best in the world and that’s what we want to do.

What makes you think you will beat him?

Papa Trinidad: We are not basing any of our training or preparations on Winky’s weaknesses. We are basing the entire camp on his potential. Working on his boxing techniques. Working on his power punching. Utilizing all of his power and his boxing ability that he has always had. Winky’s weaknesses will not be a factor in training, just Tito’s potential that he has had in the past.

Tito Trinidad: Winky has been willing to fight me and that’s what I want to do. I want to fight the best guys out there that are willing to fight me.

What were Papa’s thoughts when Tito told him he wanted to come back and fight again?

Papa Trinidad: My reaction wasn’t really that of surprise. I the back of my mind I knew that there was the possibility that he would come back. His fans were always pushing him and everyone was asking for him to return to the ring. When he decided to come back to boxing I went along with the idea and told him I would help him as I always did in the past.

Birmingham said he found formula is de la Hoya and Hopkins fights to beat him…

Papa Trinidad: We have also seen a lot of tapes of Winky’s fights against Vargas and Shane Mosley, but the main thing for us is to get Tito’s potential to come out in the ring and see that he is 100% ready for this fight. The quality of the great champion will come out as it did in other big fights.

There is a rematch clause for Winky if he wins, would you give him one if you win?

Papa: If it is worth it to give him the rematch we will do so. We have no rematch clause in our contract but if it is worth it and it is a great fight, why not do it again?

If Winky sticks out his chin, what would you do?

Tito: If Winky lowers his hands and he gives me his chin, I will give him the biggest punch of his life. If I have that opportunity, of course I will take it again.

Tito: I have been training really, really hard and there is no difference than in my previous camps, so it’s basically the same thing. I have always trained to win the fight. This is exactly what I did in the Mayorga fight. There is no big difference between that camp and this one.

Do you think Shane fought a better second fight?

Tito: I think in the second fight Shane Mosley did much better because it seemed as though he had more desire to win that fight. Obviously Winky Wright pressed on in the later rounds to win but Shane had much more desire to win.

Who has Tito been preparing with that has Winky’s power?

Papa: We have quite a few sparring partners that we have been working with but of course they cannot match Winky’s ability but let’s not forget that Tito has faced six southpaws in his career and this won’t be the exception. He beat all of those six guys and this shouldn’t be any different.

Have you seen what you can exploit in Winky?

Papa: I want to make this clear. This fight will not be won because of somebody’s inability to do something or a particular weakness. Winky is a great champion and he has proven himself at 154 pounds. We are much superior than Winky and that’s what we’ll prove on May 14.

Do you think Winky is prepared for you?

Tito: I think in the back of his mind he has an idea of how hard I can hit. To tell you the truth, he probably doesn’t want to get to May 14th, because he probably afraid of what I can do in the ring. But he already signed the contract and he cannot back out of it and he will se how much punching power I have that day.

Has Tito seen another opponent be psyched out by all of his fans?

Tito: I don’t think it will matter that the people will be behind me in this fight as much as the other fights. First of all, Winky is a very experienced fighter and has fought all over the world and that shouldn’t be an issue. It is not going to be the people chanting or the people behind me that will get him all psyched out. It will be me.

How long does it take in a fight to pick out deficiencies once the fight starts?

Papa: That is extremely hard to predict. It comes within the fight. It could be the first round and it could be later. It is just a matter of being there and seeing what is going on in the ring.

Do you feel Winky is in the same class as Hopkins, de la Hoya and Whitaker?

Tito: Obviously he is and that’s why he is champion at 154-pounds. There is no question about that.

Winky said there was an issue with hand wraps and will be very cautious as well…

Papa: They have a right to see how we wrap Tit’s hands. We’ll do the same, supervising how they do their job wrapping Winky’s hands and we’ll both do the same thing.

What concerns you most about Winky?

Tito: I don’t want to take anything away from Winky Wright or be disrespectful to him but I have no worries about what he will do. I have no concerns about that and I’m not thinking about that. I only know that he will be in great condition and he will come to fight.

Do you try to take advantage during the fight?

Papa: It comes with the fight just like my father said. Of couse it could happen in the first round or it could happen later. If I have the opportunity to finish an opponent I will finish him right away. If I see that Winky Wright is not up to par with me, I will definitely take him out.

What was it like when he came back and he was in the ring listening to his fans?

Tito: It was one of the most exciting times of my life. Just to hear the fans chanting “Tito, Tito,” when I stepped up into the ring. The only way I knew how to pay them back was to give them every single round and give the best performance that I could ever put together. It was kind of hard to describe, to go back into the ring and hear my name and to hear people screaming for him.

Winky is known to have a pretty good chin, what is the plan?

Tito: It is just a matter of conditioning really. I always prepare for twelve rounds and this is the same case for this fight. I prepare for twelve and of course if I can knock him out and I’ll go along until I get that victory.

Are there any stipulations on gloves?

Papa: They haven’t decided on what gloves he will be wearing for the fight, color or brand, but that will be decided later.

Winky said you beat a blown up welterweight in Mayorga.

Tito: It doesn’t really matter if you think about it. Mayorga was not a welterweight any more and I gave him the beating of his life and nobody can question that. That was the end result and we already went through that. I knocked him out and that is that.

Birmingham said this is just another fight for them.

Papa: I can interpret that as saying it will be another loss for Winky Wright and of course they will say whatever they have to say but never underestimate the power and the quality of Tito the champion.

Papa: Watch the show from the very beginning because it may end very early."

Quelle: www.eastsideboxing.com
 

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Interview mit Tito & Wright

Wright hat bisher alle Kämpfe mit 154 lbs bestritten. Gegen Tito steigt er schon auf 160. Im Interview behauptet er sogar, im SMW kämpfen zu wollen, sofern ein Zahltag winkt. Finde ich überraschend.

Im vollständigen Interview mit statements beider Kämpfer äußert Tito, dass er nicht wisse, was er gegen Hopkins falsch gemacht hat. Peinlich ist seine Behauptung, die Niederlage habe mit der Verschiebung des Kampfes aufgrund des Anschlags vom 11. September zu tun :gitche: :

"Did the postponement of the Hopkins fight effect you in any way?

“I felt sorry for all the innocent people that died during 9/11. The delay in the fight effected me; I think that if the fight took place when it was originally scheduled to happen the result would have been different.”


Winky möchte Tito ein beating über 12 Runden geben. Hier das statement von Winky:

"... WINKY WRIGHT QUOTES

“Tito may be a stronger fighter than me, but I am a smarter fighter than Tito. He is one-dimensional. I have a lot of different weapons and styles and can and will adapt to the situation. I am not worried about Tito because he is very limited. He needs to worry about my jab, and how I will out-think him. He cannot fight smart fighters. Look happened when he fought Hopkins. Tito may be stronger but I have better skills.

“The only worry I have about this fight is that the loss will send Tito back into retirement and I lose the big payday I have been promised for the rematch. Please Tito, after the loss, UNA MAS! UNA MAS!”

“Tito had a lot of excuses for his loss to Bernard Hopkins, but there will be no excuses when he loses to me Saturday night. He will have lost to the better man and a smarter fighter. I have waited my whole professional life for this opportunity and I am well-prepared for a great fight.

“Can I take Tito’s best punch? I don’t intend to find out.”

“I am considered an underdog in this fight because everyone knows Tito or they think I am the smaller man. But I am not the smaller man. This is a great weight for me. I’m not jumping 13 pounds and two weight classes … it’s just six pounds and it’s my natural weight. I feel great and I have been working with naturally bigger men like Jeff Lacy, Antwun Echols and Carlos De Leon, Jr. Lacy hits a lot harder than Tito. This is only the second time Tito has fought a natural middleweight who was not faded and we all know what happened when he fought Hopkins.”

“I don’t have to knockout Tito to win the fight. I will enjoy beating him up for 12 rounds and it will be a hard thing for him to take. My strategy is simple…to win the fight round by round. And that is exactly what I will do too.”

“Shane Mosley made a very big mistake looking ahead to fighting Trinidad before our first fight. If Tito wants to make that same mistake—looking ahead to fighting Hopkins before he fights me—who am I to complain? I’m just looking forward to that big-money rematch.

“After I beat Tito in the rematch, my hit list is Hopkins and De La Hoya. Weight is NOT and issue. If the big-money fight is at 154, I’ll go down to that weight. If it’s 160, I’ll stay at this weight. I’ll even fight at 168 pounds. I want to fight the best in any of those divisions.”

“The Corrales-Castillo fight was great, but it’s the kind of fight that can shorten your career. I’ll go to war to win a fight, but that is not my primary strategy for winning.”
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Quelle: www.eastsideboxing.com
 

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Ist Wright noch WBA-Superchampion im Halbmittelgewicht?
Falls ja, was würde passieren wenn Travis Simms eine Titelvereinigung macht?
 

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pound4pound schrieb:
Simms ist jetzt voller WBA champ, aber jetzt wird noch ein interim champ ausgekämpft hab ich gesehn.

Ja, zwischen Ex-Weltmeister Alejandro "Terra" Garcia und Rhoshi Wells. Die Beiden haben schon mal gegeneinander gekämpft.

Was wäre aber, wenn "Winky" noch Superchampion ist und Simms eine Titelvereinigung macht?
 

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2005-05-14 160 Ronald Wright 160 48-3-0
MGM Grand, Las Vegas, NV, USA L UD 12 12
~ Referee: Jay Nady | Judge: Duane Ford 107-120 | Judge: Dave Moretti 108-119 | Judge: Jerry Roth 108-119 ~
WBC Middleweight Title Eliminator
Trinidad lost a point in round 9 for repeated low blows.
Mein Gott das war ja eine ganz klare Entscheidung
versteh ich nicht :crazy: :crazy: :skepsis: :wall:
 

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jerry schrieb:
würde ich auch gerne wissen :confused:


bei dem kampf wars egal...
da hätte jeder ref sein können

nady ist einer der in der vergangenheit schon oft zu früh abgebrochen hat...
 
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Du meinst jetzt aber nicht Judahs legendären Chickendance?? :D
 

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Wright sucht glaube ich einen Gegner für den 5.11. steht zumindest bei boxrec. Wie wäre es denn mit Felix Sturm??
 
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Das ist schon Winky im neuen Video von Fifty mit Mobb Deep?! :cool:
 
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