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[Irina]

Nayoro HS-100 13.12. 2008
1 Okabe ( 95. 95) 249.0
2 Shuji Endo 242.5
3 Hosoyama

At Junior Class, Sakuyama wins.
http://www.sponichi.co.jp/sports/flash/KFullFlash20081213038.html

 

[Funaki1998]

Yes, I already found the reuslts on nayoro-ski.net and I have the positions of many competitors.
Results Mens Here
Results Junior Here.

1 OKABE 249,0
2 ENDO S. 242,5
3 HOSOYAMA 241,5
4 SAKANO 241,0
5 TANAKA 240,5
6 ITO K. 237,5
7 FUNAKI 233,0
7 UMEZAKI 233,0
9 OSANAI 232,0
10 FUNATO 226,0
11 MATSUNOO 224,5
12 YOSHIOKA 223,0
13 TAKAYANAGI 221,0
14 SASAKI 219,5
14 ENDO Y. 219,5
16 ENDO T. 218,0
17 SAKURAI K. 217,5
18 TAKANO 216,0
18 YAMADA 216,0
21 HIGASHI 214,5
21 YAMAMOTO 214,5
27 NISHIMORI 201,0
30 ISHIZAWA 186,5
DNS
TOCHIMOTO
WATASE
??

1 SAKUYAMA 239,0
2 SUZUKI 221,5
3 WATANABE H. 220,5
4 HARADA 220,0
5 HOSODA 210,5
6 NARITA 209,0
7 KOBAYASHI 200,5
8 YOKOKAWA 194,0
9 SHIMIZU R. 192,5
10 WATANABE T. 180,5
11 SASAKI 179,0
12 MABUCHI 176,0
12 TAKAHASHI T. 176,0
14 SHIMIZU A. 174,0
15 FURUI 171,0
16 SATOH M. 160,5
17 YAMADA 153,5
20 TAKEHANA 144,0

The "special" jumpers are clearly ahead of the nordic combined.
The distances are not very good for the junior.

 

[MK23 - skiimport]

Thanks for posting this....please, keep posting Japan domestic results here, it is very difficult to find them for a non-japanese reading fan

 

[Dairyu]

Watase had a great competition in Kuusamo, but somehow don't believe in him...

I think that many of us underestimate Watase because on some weekends he is so far behind Shôhei or Taku like in Hakuba and Trondheim and even struggles with qualification..in backwind conditions he has more problems than other japanese in my opinion...however he is completely capable of making the 2nd round and actually does make it quite often..he has become a sure part of the Japanese team now and as long as we don't expect him to make the 2nd round every time we will be pleasently surprised by him.
If he keeps going like this and Sakuyama receives the opportunity he deserves Watase should not be the one who has to be replaced..

It might not last long, but it is fun to read Watase's name ahead of Romoeren and Malysz in the standings..

 

[Funaki1998]

Right, Yuta shouldn't be underrated because on some competitions, he can do the final round when there is no wind but with his technique, he can't be effective on flying hills... he doesn't jump with his legs but with too high shoulders at the take-off, so he is very passive and he could not have more speed during the flight. This technique is good on normal hills because he jumps high, but I think he could be very good if he pushes with his legs...
I think others japanese could have more difficulties than him when there is bad wind. Nori who has no height during the flight and the others like Tochimoto or Yumoto because their take-off are not very intense.

 

[MK23 - skiimport]

Hehehe....

 

[Dairyu]

We have a japanese victory again! Fumihisa !!! So brave in these difficult conditions...the courage of a true japanese hero!

Nori 6th...

(and another good result for Watase) hehehe....

 

[Hakuba]

An exciting victory! Congratulations! おめでとう！

The Japanese are used to snowy weather. That's why they can cope with conditions like today.

 

[Lazergirl]

Congrats

 

[MK23 - skiimport]

Yumoto 1st / Kasai 6th / Watase 12th - for sure this can't be the coincidence, our jumpers excell in difficult conditions.
Fumisha had a little luck with weather conditions, but probably so did some other jumpers that were not amongst the favorites - yet he was the only one who was able to produce great performance.
And the competition was not a total weather lottery, apart from Fumisha and Nori you will find usual names in the top10.
After all - this is skijumping - and in skijumping weather often creates some surprising results. Sometimes you lose, sometimes you win...
Today we WON

(and with this results, we are certain to have 6 starting places untill end of season!)

 

[Funaki1998]

Congrats Fumihisa ! 100 points and the 6th place in the standings !
::

A very good jump for Nori and another very good result for Yuta, once more...

 

[Funaki1998]

Results Nayoro 14/12/2008 :

1 OKABE 265,0
2 MATSUNOO 238,5
3 HOSOYAMA 236,0
4 ITO K. 234,5
5 HIGASHI 234,0
5 ENDO S. 234,0
7 YOSHIOKA 233,5
8 SAKURAI Y. 231,5
9 UMEZAKI 231,0
10 TANAKA 228,5
10 FUNAKI 228,5
12 TAKAYANAGI 228,0
13 TAKANO 227,5
14 ENDO T. 224,5
14 OSANAI 224,5
16 SAKANO 223,5
17 YAMAMOTO 222,0
18 FUNATO 217,5
19 ENDO Y. 215,5
20 MIYAMOTO K. 214,5
21 SAKURAI K. 212,5
26 ENDO K. 195,5
29 NISHIMORI 188,0
44 YAMADA 89,5

Results Junior :

1 SAKUYAMA 229,5
2 WATANABE 228,0
3 NARITA 226,0
4 SUZUKI 219,5
5 SHIMIZU R. 218,0
6 KOBAYASHI 217,5
7 HARADA 211,5
8 YOKOKAWA 208,0
9 HOSODA 201,0
10 YAMADA 198,5
11 SASAKI 194,0
12 WATANABE T. 175,5
13 MABUCHI 175,0
14 TAKANASHI 164,5
15 OKADA 162,5
16 SHIMIZU A. 162,0
17 SATOH M. 159,5
18 TAKAHASHI T. 158,5
19 HOKARI 153,5
19 FURUI 153,5
19 MIYABE 153,5
22 MIYASHITA Y. 148,5
23 URASAWA 143,5
24 TAKEHANA 141,5
31 SATO T. 58,5

 

[MK23 - skiimport]

Thanks again for posting this...
Okabe was clearly the best over two days, but it will be difficult to see who will be replaced in the A team, because all six have scored good WC points. Actually, Daiki has the least WC points currently which is a great surprise :brauen:

 

[Dairyu]

Okabe has shown he is clearly the No. 7 jumper right now, but the way things are going we need to continue with these 6 jumpers. On a good day it is possible to have 6 japanese in the 2nd round! Kenshiro Ito and Okabe received their opportunities and failed to impress...

Funato has been doing okay recently in japanese domestic competitions so this is a bit of a letdown.
Hosoda and Harada are again way behind Sakuyama, but even Sakuyama's total points is not extremely impressive.

As for me there is no doubt who are the best 6 japanese jumpers right now...

 

[Hakuba]

I found this article
http://www.nikkansports.com/sports/news/p-sp-tp0-20081215-440250.html

Here is the translation:

Yumoto Fumihisa (24 Jahre, Tokyo Biso) who is taking part in the World Cup series for the second year has achieved his first victory. With the longest jump of 126 m in the first round and 114.8 points he held the top position. Because the second round was cancelled due to strong wind an upset victory came his way. It has been the first triumph of the Japanese team for four years after Funaki Kazuyoshi’s victory in Sapporo in February, 2005. Altogether Yumoto is the 11th Japanese jumper to win after Miyahira Hideharu’s first victory in March, 1999.

Yumoto hold down Simon Amman (Switzerland) by 1.5 meters in distance and 1.2 points and thus controlled the competition. Having climbed the winner’s stand out of an ambush he did not hide his amazement: “I concentrated on the approach and when I took off the wind came my way.It was a real surprise for me.”

In his fourth year now after leaving school he has been chosen a member of the WC team for the first time, although his best results had been a 22nd place in Sapporo and an overall 58th place. He was elected a member of the team for the World Championship in Sapporo, but was not given the chance to compete. Nevertheless, he submitted without complaining to the training programme (strengthening of the lower half of the body) introduced by Kari Ylianttila, who has been appointed national coach since the 05/06 season, and thus could enhance his capability. This season improvements can be seen in the knee angle during approach and in the transmission of power to the feet at take-off. At the season opener in Kuusamo on 29 November he reached his best result ever since with an 8th place.

He also overcame his mental weakness which was described by people who know him as “Heart of a flea”. Today under the severe conditions of snowfall and strong wind he concentrated on the approach. The Chief coach Kanno, who belongs to the same club Tokyo Biso, praised the heroic deed by his apprentice: “He managed to show a jump of his unimpressed by snow and wind”. Kanno said: “(The changeable weather) is similar to Sapporo. The European jumpers have only little experience with bad conditions.”

Yumoto remained reserved: “I still don’t have the strength to jump into the top ten regularly, but I hope to continue on the level I have reached.” This has been the first step on the winner’s stand of the World Cup since the 3rd place of Kasai Noriaki in Garmisch-Partenkirchen in January, 2007. For the “Japanese Flying squad” who on the way to the 2010 Vancouver Olympics are fighting to get out of the depression suddenly a saviour has appeared.

 

[Funaki1998]

Daiki, Nori, Yuta and Shohhei out ! ;(;(;(;(

 

[Irina]

I am boring that 4 jumpers don't appear;(

SAJ has an internal problem.
http://www.nikkansports.com/sports/news/f-sp-tp0-20081217-441201.html

7 councilmen complained to a court that SAJ Chairman Yoshiro Ito had not better work.
They accuse him by the Chiairman selection in sempember was held by wrong way.
SAJ sets an 70 age limit but Ito is now 82 age. On the contrary, SAJ insists that he was selected by exception and SAJ directorates against opponents.

Youさんは日本の方ですか？

 

[Thun1]

Ich weiß ja nicht ob die Quali auch so über die Bühne gegangen wäre, wenn die schlechten Bedingungen Österreich, Deutschland oder so getroffen hätte. Es wäre doch kein Problem gewesen, die ganz offensichtlich benachteiligen Springer noch mal nachspringen zu lassen. Aber es waren ja nur hauptsächlich Japaner, da ist das nicht so schlimm....

 

[Sprungbärchen1]

Dafür hat Yumoto in Pragelato auf wundersame Art gewonnen. So ist Skispringen.

 

[Hakuba]

@ Irina
いいえ、ドイツ人です。

@ Thun
Oder man hätte einfach 15 Minuten warten können, bis das kleine Schneefallgebiet abgezogen ist. Warum ist niemand auf diese Idee gekommen?

@ Sprungbärchen:
Sehe ich nicht so. Es war keine wundersame Art, sondern hauptsächlich Gewöhntsein an Schneefall und dazu ein wenig Glück. Wenn Herr Thiele auf Eurosport sagt, das Unterste sei zu oberst gekehrt worden, stimmt das nicht. Yumoto war NICHT unterst, sondern hatte in Kuusamo bereits seine Qualitäten bewiesen!"