Fastbreak schrieb:
wurden da pässe und geburtsurkunden gefaked oder wie?
Nicht unbedingt...der klassische Fall ist, dass die Familie irgendwo aus einem Land kommt, in dem die Meldepflicht nicht so kontrolliert wird, wie in Deutschland. Dann wandert diese Familie aus und sagt bei der Einwanderung, dass das Kind an einem bestimmten Datum geboren ist und macht es damit jünger. Deswegen sind auch sehr viele dieser Kandidaten am 1.1. oder 31.12. geboren
Bei Ilyasova hängt da noch ein ganzer Rattenschwanz dran, der an anderer Stelle hier im Forum schon ausführlich besprochen wurde, deshalb nur dieser Text:
"Ulker implicated in Ilyasova scandal
Ulkerspor may have missed out on the senior title on Wednesday, but earlier in the week its youngsters won the Turkish Junior Basketball Championship in Konya.
However, there is an unpleasant smell of scandal surrounding that victory. This concerns Ulker's star player Ersan Ilyasova who was earlier in the season named MVP of an age group European Championship qualifying tournament. Turkey reached the finals of that championship but if allegations which have since surfaced prove true, it could well find itself thrown out of the competition.
According to a letter of protest sent by the Uzbekistan Basketball Federation to world governing body FIBA, Ilyasova is an Uzbek originally named Arsen Ilyasov. The letter claims that he has become a Turkish citizen by illegal means and without the Federation's knowledge or permission.
According to a report in Fanatik (June 7), it was done like this. On August 7 2002 Arsen Ilyasov, born in 1984, entered Turkey on an Uzbek passport but was never heard of again. On September 19 of the same year an Eskisehir resident named Semsettin Bulut applied to his local population registry claiming that he had forgotten (!) to register the birth of his son 15 years earlier and asking for this to be done. It was.
The "son" was duly registered as Ersan Ilyasova and obtained Turkish ID papers on the basis of the registration. Also on this basis, Ulkerspor later obtained a playing licence for him from the Turkish Basketball Federation (TBF).
Of course, the charge is that Arsen Ilyasov and Ersan Ilyasova are one and the same person and that Semsettin Bulut's claim to be his father is false. But it goes further. If this is true, when registering him as a Turk, Bulut lopped 3 years off his real age, giving his date of birth as 1987.
Should the real date of birth be 1984, then he was ineligible to play in either the European Championship referred to above or the Turkish Junior Championship.
This cannot just be dismissed as newspaper scandal mongering. Fanatik has documented its case. It has copies of Ilyasov's immigration record, of Ersan Ilyasova's ID papers which give his father's name as Semsettin, his birthplace as Eskisehir and his date of birth as 1987, and of the Uzbek protest letter. It has not definitely established that Ilyasov and Ilyasova are the same but it has provided strong prima facie evidence and there is a case to answer.
Unfortunately it has not been answered. There has been a deafening silence on the matter with no comment forthcoming from Ulker or the TBF. We feel the Eskisehir population registry has a question or two to answer as well. Now that the Turkish championship is over, it is surely time for an investigation of this case. And if the Turkish authorities will not investigate, FIBA will. "
Stinkt alles zum Himmel, aber die FIBA konnte natürlich nichts beweisen.
