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Der erste relativ euphorische Report auf NDN stammt aus der Zeit, als Enes Kanter 15 war. Wie viel früher soll's denn eurer Meinung nach noch sein?
Das wird der Grund sein!
Zwei Worte: LeBron James.Er könnte echt DER neue Superstar werden, die Kombination aus Athletik, Ballgefühl, Größe und Skills hab ich noch nie bei einem Spieler gesehen.
NDN hatte Kanter seit 2007 auf dem Radar, und wenn ich mich recht erinnere hab ich unmittelbar während oder nach dem AST 2008 einen Kommentar über ihn geschrieben. Ich denke nicht, dass das zu spät war.@mariofour, würdest du es normal finden wenn ndn nach dem ast2008 und u18 em 2008 nichts von kanter berichtet hätte? wie lange hätten die noch warten müssen?
Q: Do you believe that you can play as forward?
A: I never wanted to be center. I love playing as a Small Forward. And I believe that I can do it if I work hard. Calipari believes that too and he promised me. Because he thinks that I have SF ability and he tells me that he will play me as SF in college.
Doug Gottlieb schrieb:if I were an NBA player personnel director looking ahead to the best college prospects for the 2011 draft, the following list would be my starting point …
1. Enes Kanter, Kentucky: A tough big man who seems to rise to the challenge of elite competition [...] Whether he plays is up to the NCAA (two Pac-10 assistants told me they felt he would have major amateurism issues because of his club experience in Turkey), but playing or sitting will have little effect on his draft status. He's legit.
2. Harrison Barnes, North Carolina: A uniquely skilled and intelligent prospect who has a bit of Kobe to his game. One question remains: Does he have the killer instinct to be great?
3. John Henson, North Carolina: Henson looked totally lost much of last season until the light started to come on late. He is at least 6-foot-9 and very long, and if he can find a position (probably best as a face-up 4 in college), he should explode this season.
4. Perry Jones, Baylor: Long and thin and really skilled, Jones is a KG type -- a face-up 4 man who would rather handle and shoot than score down low. He must continue to work on his body size, but his skill level is very advanced, especially as big as he measures out.
5. Klay Thompson, Washington State: Next year's Evan Turner with a jump shot. Thompson shoots it way better than Turner and handles it just as well. Although he is far less well known to many college hoop fans (despite being the son of former No. 1 pick Mychal Thompson), [...] he makes everyone else better and can play two or three positions.
6. Kyrie Irving, Duke: A slashing, scoring, dime-dropping chip off the Jay Williams block, Irving will give the Blue Devils their first athletically elite point guard in a long while.
7. Renardo Sidney, Mississippi State: Thick? Yes. Prone to shoots 3s like Tiny Gallon? Sure. But talent to be an NBA All-Star? I think so.
8. Brandon Knight, Kentucky: Might be a bit too much of a tweener for scouts to love, but [...] scouts should dismiss his lack of true point guard skills and focus on his out-and-out scoring ability.
9. Kyle Singler, Duke: Singler is a ferocious competitor and tremendous shooter all over the floor. With another year on the wing under his belt, he should be the most refined prospect in the 2011 draft.
10. Marcus Morris, Kansas: A double-double machine who can also shoot it, Morris is among the most underrated players coming back to school.
11. Josh Selby, Kansas: An undersized 2 who will play some point, Selby is a another hybrid guard who must show he can run a team. But he is a very talented scorer who can and will guard, as well.
12. Kenneth Faried, Morehead State: An old-school starting NBA power forward type, Faried has averaged 13 rebounds each of the past two seasons. He is active, can score, can board, and can defend and block shots.
13. Terrence Jones, Kentucky: There was a reason Washington fans were so crushed to lose Jones to John Calipari and UK. He is a 6-8 man among boys who loves to handle the ball like a point forward. Jones is a dynamic personality who might be even more successful at the NBA level with his vast array of overall skills.
14. C.J. Leslie, NC State: The incoming freshman has some of the skills of Barnes, though he's not as good a passer.
15. Elias Harris, Gonzaga: Had zero interest in going pro this year, but scouts love him.
16. Trey Thompkins, Georgia: A legit 6-9 or 6-10, 250 pounds, Thompson is a prototype 4 for the NBA level. He has to take better shots and handle the ball better, but his upside is sizable.
17. Jared Sullinger, Ohio State: A wide body who is skilled like an NBA vet. Although he should have a very good year in Columbus, his NBA value will come down to how big he really is (my guess is 6-7), how long his arms are, how much lift he has, and his ability to face up and hit a 15-footer. Look for Sullinger to be really productive, but a bit of an acquired taste at the top of the draft.
18. Kris Joseph, Syracuse: Big and a very good driver, Joseph must develop into a better shooter. But as a 2-3 mix, Joseph is a dynamic rebounder who can handle and score.
19. Chris Wright, Dayton: An explosive athlete who continues to try to play on the wing, Wright is of the Damion James, Desmond Mason and Sam Young variety of college 4s who have to play on the perimeter to play in the league. Wright plays very hard at both ends and is a nasty rebounder and dunker.
20. Tyler Zeller, North Carolina: The tallest Tar Heel and one of the fastest, Zeller needs to stay healthy and improve his game on offense. But his speed, length and hands give him great upside.
21. Charles Jenkins, Hofstra: A bit undersized for an NBA 2, but bigger than Brandon Knight and Kenny Boynton at about 6-2 or 6-3. Jenkins is built like a truck, is tremendous off the bounce and loves contact in the lane. He needs to continue to improve his deep jump shot, but he should be the Dominique Jones of the 2011 draft.
22. Travis Leslie, Georgia: The new human highlight film, Leslie is coming to your town to put you on a poster. He is also a decent ball handler and shooter who can get his own shot.
23. Mason Plumlee, Duke: A big, strong physical specimen who can really get off the floor, Plumlee and brother Miles give the Devils the athleticism they sorely need inside.
24. Robbie Hummel, Purdue: Although he is coming off an ACL injury [...], Hummel is still a good bet to be a solid pro. He can handle and pass, and although his release is funky, it is quick and usually works.
25. Ravern Johnson, Mississippi State: Built like a pogo stick and jumps like one, too, Johnson is a freak athlete who can score from the wing.
26. Derrick Williams, Arizona: Williams is a skilled 6-7/6-8 face-up 4 who is a rare combination of talent and toughness.
27. Kenny Boynton, Florida: Struggled with his jumper all season until the last couple of weeks, Boynton is an undersized 2 who could go either way on a draft board. When he gets it rolling, you might think he is a Ben Gordon type, but he was far too slight and inconsistent last season
28. Jimmer Fredette, BYU: expect Fredette to play more at the point in an effort to show his NBA viability. Before you think "undrafted Scottie Reynolds," remember that he is bigger and stronger and frankly, far more explosive a scorer.
29. Tristan Thompson, Texas: Two years ago, he was one hell of a prospect out of his native Canada. After some reported attitude problems and stops at two basketball powerhouses, Thompson has slipped some and might have added too much bulk. On the other hand, he is smart, quiet, and a winner with the ability to play inside and out in a Lamar Odom sort of way.
30. Cameron Clark, Oklahoma: Silky smooth wing who has a nice midrange game.
Sleeper
Dante Taylor, Pittsburgh: Taylor is coming off a weak freshman showing after being the first McDonald's All-American to sign with Pitt in nearly 20 years. But he has the body and is in a program that consistently produces big men who improve by leaps and bounds.
Chad Ford schrieb:Here's a look at 10 guys who have helped their stock this summer
The freshmen
Perry Jones, F, Baylor Bears
We've had Jones ranked No. 2 on our Big Board since June, and after a few days of seeing him play at the adidas Nations camp in Chicago, we're feeling pretty good about it.
Jones wasn't dominant in Chicago, and that's the same knock that scouts had on him when he was in high school. But the way he ran the floor and fit in against more experienced teammates and opponents had scouts buzzing. Jones has as much talent as anyone in the draft. The question remains one of assertiveness.
Kyrie Irving, PG, Duke Blue Devils
Ivring was the floor leader for Team USA's under-18 gold-medal team this summer. He lived up to the hype, averaging 13.6 points and 4 assists in just more than 20 minutes per game for the Americans. Irving has it all; he's the most well-rounded point guard in the country. He can score in a variety of ways, has excellent leadership skills and steps up with the game on the line. If he were a John Wall-type athlete, he'd be ranked even higher, but as it is, we expect big things from him at Duke next season and leave him ranked No. 4 on our Big Board.
Patric Young, F/C, Florida Gators
Young already has the requisite NBA body, athleticism and toughness. He was widely considered the best high school defensive big man in the country last year and was the anchor in the middle for Team USA's under-18 gold-medal team this summer.
Young is still a work in progress offensively (he averaged just 6.6 ppg for Team USA), but virtually every scout I spoke with walked away feeling that he was looking at a potential lottery pick.
The returning collegians
Kyle Singler, F, Duke Blue Devils
[...] Singler looked fantastic at both LeBron's camp and in scrimmages against Team USA in Las Vegas. He continues to improve his range on his jump shot, which is helping scouts get more comfortable with him as a potential stretch 4 in the pros. [...]
Marcus Morris, F, Kansas Jayhawks
Morris started edging his way onto NBA draft boards this past winter when he took over a stacked Kansas squad and led the team in scoring during conference play. Morris continued to win converts this summer with very strong performances at the LeBron James Skills Academy and the adidas Nations camp.
Morris not only is a good athlete but also is rapidly improving his basketball skills on both ends of the floor. A number of scouts remarked that he might be the most complete 4 in the country.
If he were a little bigger or slightly more explosive, we might be talking about a lottery pick. As it stands, he's looking more and more like a lock for the first round.
Shelvin Mack, G, Butler Bulldogs
[...] Mack impressed scouts at the LeBron and adidas camps with his playmaking ability and deep range.
Scouts questioned last season whether Mack was really a true point guard, but after watching him run a team and the pick-and-roll this summer, they seem more willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. Scouts were split on whether Mack or Illinois' Demetri McCamey was the better prospect. Mack might be considered a lottery pick if he were a slightly better athlete, but he has moved into the first-round discussion. Think of him as a poor man's Chauncey Billups.
Quincy Acy, F, Baylor Bears
[...] The crazy-long, athletic forward doesn't really have a position or even a discernible NBA skill set yet. But his energy, elite leaping ability, speed and nose for the ball all had scouts praising him at the adidas Nations camp. If he can add some sort of detectable offensive game and a little strength, he'll have a legit shot at the first round.
Norris Cole, PG, Cleveland State Vikings
Cole emerged from the Deron Williams Skills Academy sessions in Chicago with scouts raving about his high basketball IQ, steadiness on the floor and leadership ability. He isn't elite in any category, but a number of scouts walked away from the camp feeling he was as good a prospect as anyone there. He's been a little under our radar the past few years, but we'll give him a close look during his senior season. Consider him a potential second-round sleeper.
The international men of mystery
Jonas Valanciunas, F/C Lithuania
Valanciunas wowed scouts with his performance in the European under-18 championships this summer. Valanciunas was named MVP of the tournament, averaged 19.4 ppg in the series and scored 31 points and grabbed 18 rebounds in the final game to lead Lithuania to the gold medal.
Valanciunas has drawn some comparisons to Pau Gasol with his finesse game as a 4 around the basket. Scouts walked away impressed with his motor and ability to take over the game, but they acknowledged that his lack of elite athleticism lowers his stock just a bit.
Europeans are trending away from entering the draft early, and Valanciunas just turned 18 in May. But if he decides to declare, he's looking a lot like a top-10 prospect.
Lucas Nogueira, C, Brazil
Nogueira came out of nowhere to become the story of the FIBA Americas U18 Championship. The Brazilian big man was a shot-blocking machine, recording a whopping 27 blocks in five games during the tournament. He had 22 points, 14 rebounds and 3 blocks against Team USA in the title game and drew rave reviews from scouts.
But before you slot him into the lottery, be forewarned: Nogueira needs to add considerable weight and strength, and he'll have to improve his offense dramatically. Right now his comp would be someone like Marshall's Hassan Whiteside. Lots and lots of upside is there, but it could be a while until he achieves it.
Fran Fraschilla schrieb:I believe that high school players should be able to make the jump directly to the NBA if they so please, but I would be in favor of an "at least two years in college" rule if a player chose to enroll in school. [...]
Here are my top 10 incoming freshmen to keep an eye on with regard to next June's NBA draft [...]
1. Harrison Barnes, 6-foot-8, North Carolina Tar Heels
It will be an upset if Barnes is not one of the country's top players this season and the top "one-and-done" guy in next June's draft. He is a prototype small forward, an athlete with myriad offensive skills and a championship caliber attitude to match.
2. Perry Jones, 6-11, Baylor Bears
It would be hard to find a guy in next year's draft with a better combination of size, skill and athleticism. Jones weighs 235 pounds, handles and passes the ball like a guard, has excellent shooting form and can play around the rim. He possesses a great attitude and he's missing only a disposition to dominate. If he gets that this season at Baylor, he could surpass Barnes.
3. Kyrie Irving, 6-2, Duke Blue Devils
A comparison to Hall of Famer Isiah Thomas is not out of the question when you think of Irving's point guard attributes. He has Thomas' size, ability to shoot from deep, scoring ability in traffic and an innate sense for setting up his teammates. He will be Duke's most talented point guard since Jay Williams, who was selected No. 2 overall in 2002.
4. Enes Kanter, 6-11, Kentucky Wildcats
While Kanter still has to clear up some NCAA amateurism issues, there's no denying his prodigious rebounding ability. Possibly the best young prospect Turkey has ever produced, Kanter will bring his hard hat to the game every night for the Wildcats, because he has the size and strength to throw his weight around.
5. Brandon Knight, 6-3, Kentucky Wildcats
There's little difference between a combo guard and a scoring point guard, especially in John Calipari's system. Cal will highlight Knight's explosive offensive talent and allow him to build a one-year resume at UK that will end with a spot in next June's lottery. Learning to distribute the ball better will increase his stock even further.
6. Jared Sullinger, 6-8, Ohio State Buckeyes
Sullinger was the most physical player in high school basketball and will come in handy in the Big Ten. He will give coach Thad Matta an instant post presence. If there is a concern in terms of his NBA potential, it's that almost all of his work is done below the rim. So far, it hasn't mattered.
7. C.J. Leslie, 6-9, North Carolina State Wolfpack
Leslie's skill level is still raw by NBA standards but there's no denying his NBA-level athleticism. A solid freshman season under former NBA coach and player Sidney Lowe should propel him into the top half of the first round. [...]
8. Josh Selby, 6-3, Kansas Jayhawks
Selby is a typical junkyard dog from Baltimore, and Bill Self will love his toughness. A transition from combo guard to point guard is not likely to happen in just one season at Kansas, and an inconsistent jump shot must be improved as well. [...]
9. Terrence Jones, 6-9, Kentucky Wildcats
Even if Jones is not ready to be a "one-and-done," Calipari will push him out the door if he has a solid freshman season. However, the odds are that the multi-talented forward will be ready to make the jump into the draft next June. [...]
10. Cory Joseph, 6-3, Texas Longhorns
Given Rick Barnes' desperate need for Joseph to step into the point guard role for the Longhorns, Joseph will have the opportunity to impress NBA scouts immediately. He's got the positional size, speed, quickness and shooting ability to rank with Irving and Knight.
So klar ist es, glaube ich, nicht gewesen. Bis zu Rivers' Zusage für Duke, die für großes Aufsehen sorgte, galt nach meinem Wissen Michael Gilchrist als Top-Talent der Klasse von 2011. Wen auch immer man jetzt aber an #1 sieht - Rivers ist in jedem Fall einer der Spitzenrekruten seines Jahrgangs.Der gilt schon seit 2007 als das Top-Talent des 2011er-Jahrgangs.