Könnte Gordon Hayward echt unter den ersten 10 landen ?
Sein Manager meinte es zumindest.
Vielleicht wurde das schon geklärt, aber what about Elias Harris ?
Chad Ford schrieb:International man of mystery
This year's Combine Man of Mystery was England's Ryan Richards. Richards is a long lefty from England who got the attention of a number of GMs when he stepped onto the floor. Richards shot the ball well, was very fluid running up and down the court and showed a sound basketball IQ. [...]
Before they fall too in love, it's important to note that Richards played sparingly in Gran Canaria in Spain this year before eventually transferring to Switzerland to play. He got meaningful minutes there, but the competition was very weak. [...]
With so many teams sporting multiple first-round picks (the Minnesota Timberwolves, Memphis Grizzlies, Oklahoma City Thunder and New Jersey Nets) I wouldn't be surprised if someone takes a shot at him late in the first round.
David Thorpe schrieb:No. 6 Golden State Warriors
Need: The Warriors simply do not have a post scorer. [...] The Warriors fly up and down the floor, but until they get more efficient players (who also rebound), they will look great but never accomplish anything special.
Value: I can't imagine Cousins dropping past this point. The Warriors would be getting a guy with "top pick overall" talent at the No. 6 spot. If he's gone, expect the Warriors to grab whichever of the other guys we've discussed before at this spot, most likely Al-Farouq Aminu.
No. 7 Detroit Pistons
Need: I don't think the Pistons are set anywhere except for 2-guard. [...] any player at the other four spots would work. This is a team without an identity, which means finding a player with a "presence" makes sense. A center is the Pistons' biggest need, though, and that's why Cole Aldrich, Ed Davis, Greg Monroe, Ekpe Udoh and even Solomon Alabi are in the mix here.
Value: Udoh and Monroe both have enough in them to become solid NBA players. If they were sure things, they'd be leading candidates for picks 3 through 6. Ford has Detroit taking Davis, who probably has the biggest upside and downside of the group. Udoh is the safer pick.
No. 8 Los Angeles Clippers
Need: Finding a wing who can shoot and someone who can defend with strength should top their wish list. That leads us to Gordon Hayward, Luke Babbitt and possibly Xavier Henry.
Value: In terms of value, Hayward probably makes the most sense, which is why Ford has him going here. He's going to be able to play both wing spots on both ends, and he brings a "nastiness" [...] Henry is intriguing, though, as his shooting currently projects to be NBA-level from the get-go
No. 9 Utah Jazz
Need: Adding a center to back up aging sharpshooter Mehmet Okur seems to make sense, but they have talented young bigs in Kyrylo Fesenko (23 years old) and Kosta Koufos (21). So power forward is the bigger need, or a sharpshooting wing to work with undrafted starter Wesley Matthews. All the bigs we've mentioned (excluding Alabi), plus Hayward, are in play here. I think Henry and Babbitt are, too.
Value: this pick is more about tomorrow than today. Because of that, Avery Bradley might end up being the guy here. He has terrific upside and could play next to Deron Williams on both ends of the floor. In five years, he could be better than most of the players taken ahead of him. Ford picks Monroe, who does have excellent passing skills that will fit in perfectly in Utah's offensive system. But can he handle Jerry Sloan's tough love? One last guy I love here is Patrick Patterson, if the Jazz look for a "ready to help us win a title now" guy.
No. 10 Indiana Pacers
Need: they got killed in their backcourt and at the center position. That gives a big edge to the better offensive centers in the draft, like Monroe and Aldrich. The Pacers have to upgrade their scoring punch, so looking at Hayward as a shooting guard makes some sense, and Patterson would be able to help right away. Bradley's offense should be solid if not better in a year or two, and his defensive mindset matches the coach's there.
Value: Monroe has value but might be too much like Roy Hibbert. That's why I see Aldrich as a solid guy here and possibly Davis as a longer-term project. [...] Bradley will have his chances to get into this spot as well.
Es ehrt mich, dass du mich persönlich fragst, aber es fällt mir schwer, viel dazu zu sagen.
Fresno State ist nicht gerade ein Powerhouse, weshalb ich von George anders als von Hayward noch nichts gesehen habe. Ich kann also nur auf Basis dessen urteilen, was ich gelesen habe. Die gängigen NBA-Vergleiche sind einerseits Wilson Chandler (seltener: Trevor Ariza) und andererseits Tracy McGrady, was schon eine ziemliche Leistungsspanne darstellt. Wo genau George dabei anzusiedeln ist, vermag ich nicht zu beurteilen. Allerdings fühle ich mich beim Lesen über ihn oft an Tamar Slay erinnert. Der wurde 2002 zwar erst an #53 gewählt (und brachte dann in der NBA auch nichts zustande), galt vor dem Draft aber als Geheimtipp mit beträchtlichem Talent, als großgewachsener, athletischer Guard/Forward von einem zweitrangigen College (Marshall, wo dieses Jahr auch Hassan Whiteside herkommt).
Was Hayward betrifft, bin ich ein ausgesprochener Fan und halte ihn auch für einen berechtigten Top-10-Pick, kann ihn mir aber nicht bei den Clippers vorstellen - vielleicht neben Griffin, bestimmt neben Kaman, aber nicht neben Gordon und Davis, und schon gar nicht unter einem Besitzer wie Donald Duckling. An #9 (Utah) oder #10 (Indiana) passt er viel besser - Hayward sieht ohnehin aus wie einer dieser typischen Jazz-, Spurs-, Pacers- oder Celtics-Spieler, die man direkt aus den 50ern hergezaubert hat. Bei den Clippers wüsste ich aber nicht mal, welche Rolle er einnehmen soll: Defense-Spezialist? Spot-up-shooter? Alley-oop-Partner? Nichts von all dem passt, denn er braucht nach meinem Eindruck den Ball in seinen Händen bzw. wenigstens einen guten Spielmacher im Team, was Davis nicht ist.
Um jetzt mal näher auf deine Fragen einzugehen:
Ich würde als Clippers-GM keinen davon an #8 ziehen: Hayward aus erklärten Gründen, und George nicht, weil ich Zweifel habe, dass er mehr kann und besser ist als Al Thornton, der ja abgegeben wurde. Anstelle der Clippers würde ich eher Xavier Henry oder Luke Babbitt nehmen, die beide als bessere Schützen gelten. Da sie aber eigentlich auch nicht an #8 gehören, würde ich den Pick traden oder meine Bank damit verstärken und allgemein meine Augen auf Rudy Gay richten, um die Small-Forward-Position in der Free Agency adäquat zu besetzen.
Naja, es ist manchmal berechtigt, z.B. bei Russell Westbrook.Wie gesagt, bei George gehen die Meinungen ziemlich außeinander und ich bin auch immer etwas skeptisch, wenn Spieler wegen Workouts solch einen Hype erfahren und nach oben klettern.
Da stimme ich dir bekanntlich zu. Hayward ist ein vielseitiger Basketballer mit einem hohen Spiel-IQ, aber er passt nicht zu den Clippers. Henry erinnert mich übrigens an Jarvis Hayes, und dass er ein guter Verteidiger wäre, ist mir neu. Er gilt doch gerade wegen seiner schwachen lateralen Schnelligkeit als fragwürdiger Perimeter-Verteidiger. So oder so würde ich ihn nicht an #8 wählen. Dann schon lieber einen schnellen, athletischen Backup-PG wie Bradley oder Bledsoe, um Baron Davis Dampf zu machen.Deswegen bin ich auch bei Hayward nicht wirklich überzeugt. Wir brauchen natürlich Hilfe auf der SF Position, aber ob er da der richtige wäre, das wage ich zu bezweifeln.
Rudy Gay ist für mich genau das was ich nicht möchte. Der ist zwar gut in der Offensive, aber eher schwach defensiv und zudem auch recht teuer. Und wenn ich schon einen auf SF hole der "Balldominant" ist, dann wohl nur Lebron oder vielleicht noch Igoudala, sollte der zu haben sein.
Chad Ford schrieb:there has been an abundance of trade talk surrounding draft picks this year.
the Philadelphia 76ers, Minnesota Timberwolves, Golden State Warriors, Detroit Pistons, Indiana Pacers, Toronto Raptors, Chicago Bulls, San Antonio Spurs and Oklahoma City Thunder all have had discussions about moving up, down or out of the draft.
The Pistons, Spurs and Thunder have been the most aggressive about moving up.
The Pistons have been searching for a big and would love to get their hands on either DeMarcus Cousins or Derrick Favors. The Spurs and Thunder also are in the hunt for a big and have targeted a number of teams in the lottery to move up a few spots. The Thunder have multiple picks to offer. The Spurs have Tony Parker or George Hill. While the Spurs aren't necessarily shopping either player, they're not untouchable, either. If the Spurs can get another big man to help prolong Tim Duncan's career, they'll do it.
The Wolves [...] have interest in moving up to the No. 2 spot to grab Evan Turner and have shown interest in perhaps trading one or two of their first-round picks for a player like Anthony Randolph.
The Pacers and Raptors [...] would like to move up in the draft and have inquired about the Sixers' and Nets' picks. They also wouldn't mind moving out of the draft if they got the right pieces in return.
A new twist with Turner
As I wrote last week, I had sources disagreeing on which direction the Sixers were leaning. Some suggested Favors, others Turner and one said Cousins. However, I decided to lean toward a source who said he had direct knowledge of Doug Collins' thinking and that Collins liked Favors. Since the mock draft, I've gotten a number of strong signals from inside the Sixers' organization that Turner is the guy they'll take at No. 2.
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the Sixers want other teams trying to trade up for him (the Wolves and Pacers seem to be the hottest suitors) to believe they're taking him. If teams think he's slipping, they'll begin dealing with New Jersey instead.
For what it's worth, the Sixers are still asking teams to take back Elton Brand's contract in a deal for the No. 2 pick. But virtually every GM I've spoken with believes the Sixers will soften their stance as we get closer to the draft.
The Sixers also are exploring other trade possibilities. The team had Andre Iguodala on the trade block in February and might look to put him back on the market this summer. If Iguodala goes, suddenly Turner looks like a better fit in Philly.
The Jazz and the Monroe Doctrine
The Utah Jazz [...] brought in Georgetown big man Greg Monroe for a solo workout. Monroe's agent, David Falk, will let Monroe work out against only Cousins or Favors. Since neither player is projected to be available at No. 9, Monroe went at it alone in Utah.
On Sunday, the Jazz brought in Gordon Hayward, Luke Babbitt, Xavier Henry and Al-Farouq Aminu for a head-to-head workout of the four best swingmen in Utah's draft range.
The Jazz don't have any other high-profile workouts scheduled. [...] I think it's safe to say those are the five prospects the Jazz are considering at No. 9. [...] From the sound of things, Monroe is still atop the Jazz's list. But it seems like Babbitt is strongly in the running, too.
The interest in Indy
The Pacers [...] brought in Daniel Orton, Ekpe Udoh, Hassan Whiteside, Lance Stephenson and Derrick Caracter. The next day, they watched Avery Bradley, Eric Bledsoe, Sherron Collins, Willie Warren and Jordan Crawford.
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If they go big, Orton, Udoh and Whiteside are the three guys they'll likely consider. Obviously Ed Davis or Monroe would be in the picture, too, if they were to fall, but neither player is expected to be there at No. 10.
If the Pacers go with a guard, it most likely will be Bradley or Bledsoe. [...] Other prospects like Collins, Warren, Crawford, Stephenson and Caracter would be in the mix for the Pacers' pick at No. 40.
It's too early to say which way the Pacers are leaning. Of the bigs, Udoh seems like the safest choice, but Orton and Whiteside have more upside. As far as point guards go, I think Bradley has the edge over Bledsoe at the moment.
Knee knocks
a few teams have privately expressed some concerns about Orton's left knee. [...] there are worries his knee is still weak and might have some structural issues. Orton tore cartilage in his left knee in November 2008 and ended up missing his senior year of high school. This past February, Kentucky coach John Calipari noted to the media that he felt Orton was still hobbled by the knee -- although Orton, at the time, claimed it was 100 percent.
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Memphis guard Elliot Williams [...] suffered a minor knee injury after a workout with the Spurs and skipped the combine. He hasn't really been heard from since. Several NBA teams say he has turned down multiple workouts.
There are two possible interpretations. One is that Williams' injury is worse than he's letting on and he can't work out. The second is that a team somewhere in the first round has promised to pick him and he is sitting out the workout process. Of the two, the second scenario seems more likely. Williams has been working out in L.A. for the past few weeks, and I'm told by sources that he's fine.
So where is the promise? The Memphis Commercial Appeal speculates that San Antonio might be the culprit because he's worked out there. The Spurs do have a history of making such promises, and the 20th pick isn't out of Williams' range. I'd also pay close attention to the Memphis Grizzlies.
There's no place like home
Forward Donatas Motiejunas withdrew from the draft Friday. Motiejunas was the only international player in the draft who projected as a potential lottery pick.
Last week we got more news that Kevin Seraphin (currently the only international player we have in the first round) had injured his knee and would be out the next few weeks. His agent, Bouna Ndiaye, insists that Seraphin hasn't withdrawn from the draft, but if the injury is serious enough, he might have no choice. Ndiaye told me he's looking for a first-round promise for Seraphin.
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If a player or two creeps in, keep an eye on two prospects -- Tibor Pleiss and Miroslav Raduljica. There are five teams with two or more first-round picks. Someone's going to want to stash one of these guys overseas.
Pleiss is a 7-footer from Germany. He's a hustle player who gets things done on the defensive end, despite lacking strength and offensive polish at the moment. While he's still a year or two away from being an impact player in the NBA, he's a nice developmental pick.
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Raduljica didn't endear himself to several NBA executives when he bailed at the last minute on a workout at the Eurocamp. However, I'm told by a source inside the camp that a team representative might have convinced Raduljica to shut down the workout. That could be a sign that a team already has him locked up late in the first.
Wenn man den Grizzlies im Gegenzug den aktuellen Draftpick und einen zukünftigen First-rounder überlässt, könnte das vielleicht schon reichen, Gay aus Memphis loszueisen. Ich habe gelesen, dass man dort seine Augen auf Luke Babbitt gerichtet hat, der dann ja Gays Platz (mit)übernehmen könnte. Allerdings weiß ich nicht, welche Richtung man in Memphis einschlagen will bzw. ob Gay in Los Angeles überhaupt ein Thema ist.
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Trade winds starting to swirl