Elvin Hayes schrieb:im endeffekt hätten wir ja dann t-mac gegen penny eingetauscht.
Wär das dann ein 1-zu-1-Tausch?
Elvin Hayes schrieb:im endeffekt hätten wir ja dann t-mac gegen penny eingetauscht.
Fro schrieb:Heute geht's dann gegen die Heat, wo Wade uns 34 Punkte einschenken wird. Damit haben wir nach dem heutigen Tag mit den Raptors gleichgezogen, was die Bilanz angeht.
classic schrieb:Wär das dann ein 1-zu-1-Tausch?
As I told you for a few days and Otis Smith confirmed the Darko deal is pretty much a done deal. As you well know anytime a GM makes a comment about a trade on the table they do so knowing it is a done deal and not much they can do to mess it up. Like I said it is just tying up the loose ends. Furthermore, IF the Magic were willing to Part with Battie, it was on the table for a Dako/Battie even swap. This should tell you how the Magic feel about Battie. My guess is once the trade is complete the Magic will put it in the press about Battie being wanted and how they want to keep him and resign him. If they do DD2K owes me an apology. No J/K.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2331049
So without getting me in to too much trouble, I thought I would put out there what I was told as a sign to come.
1st the Darko deal is the first domino in the scheme of things. Once that deal is complete, there are several deals out there that have not been reported anywhere. A couple of the hot deals depends on IF we give up Deiner in the Detroit trade. Furthermore, Darko will get a lot of minutes and it will probably seal the fate of Mario Kasun. I was told that Mario's agent recently asked for a long term deal in the neighborhood of 2.5 million per year.
2nd Francis will more than likely be gone to Denver assuming the Knicks work things out in the KMART deal. But for a moment lets assume that deal does not effect anything that is on the back burners now, because wether Francis is traded or not, a PG would come back in return (Watson).
****I can not be too specific here because of the pending deal with the Pistons and the other deals that will be effected by it.****
However, I will use the word assume lightly and you can surmise what I am trying to say based on your knowledge of who I am and what I have told you the Magic plans were.
There are a few opportunities that are out there once the Magic have a glut of Point Guards. I will not tell you which guards are sought after once certain trades happen, but I will tell you the players that are on the table. NOT IN ANY PARTICULAR ORDER
The T-Wolves want to trade Jaric to the Magic for a PG. The Magic see him as a spot PG but want to play him at the 2 because of his defense.
The Sonics have let the Magic know they will do just about anything to trade Fortson for a PG. Including packaging him with a first round pick to get a deal done. This is assuming that a proposed Reggie Evans for Nate Robinson deal does not work out.
JUST RECENTLY, the Hawks have let the Magic know they would be interested in a 2 for 1 swap for Harrington. The 2 for 1 would be for a PG & SG for Harrington. I was told that the Hawks want to play This PG they want as a starter along with Johnson, Smith, Williams and Zaza as their starters. The debate among owners is that by Keeping Harrington they are stunting the growth of J SMith, Johnson & WIlliams as a core group. From what I understand the Hawks are in the process of making a lot of steps to ensure the they get the most value out of Harrington.
Then there are a couple of fringe deals that do not effect anything.
The Nets have inquired to the Magic as well as other teams about a back up PG.
The Clippers inquired about Garrity's availability.
The Hornets have inquired about Battie, but I was told there is a good chance Kasun could get dealt there.
Now those are the fringe deals that have just started to simmer.
Now back to Francis. A new team entered the Francis discussion recently, the Cavs. They are really interested in Steve-O but the Magic told them they were not interested in taking back the contracts the Cavs have to offer. However, I was told that there is a possibility of a 3 team deal between the Hawks, Cavs and Magic where the Magic would send Steve to the Cavs and the Hawks would absorb most of the salaries back in the trade. The Magic would be trading for Harrington at that point. Mainly because the Magic do not want Gooden Back. This would involve 4 players (Gooden, Jones, Snow & Newble) being sent from the Cavs to the Hawks, with the Magic sending Francis and and a player to the Cavs and the Hawks sending Harrington & a player to the Magic. This trade proposal is a little further out of reach than the Denver trade. As you can assume, Otis has his hands quite full at the moment.
The one thing I have learned about NBA trades is that usually a team will put an idea on the table as a skeleton idea. Then the two teams will massage the idea back and forth for a while just to see how serious the discussion gets. In most cases it is 2 men (the GM's) just talking and keeping a dialogue between the two teams open for the future. Because I would say 90% of all trade talks never happen. I have seen the importance of a good front office with good relations with other GM's. I have seen deals get done that fans scratch their heads on but in the back room it was done as a favor from a previous trade, etc. These are things that any NBA front office would never tell the NBA fan. Gabe referred one time to it in the papaer about how "no team wants to help out the Magic". Well as dumb as that statement sounds, it is a very true understanding of how many deals eventually work themselves out. It is why you see a lot of teams constantly make trades between each other. Then add the agents in to the mix and you get a picture how trades transpire. Agents work the phones just as hard trying to get their client traded to a team of their choice and a lot of times are more successful than the GM's in working out deals between 2 teams.
Side note, can you imagine a team of James, Francis & Hughes as your back court with Big Z and Marshall in your front court. Not that I am a Cavs fan, but would love to see that line up just to see if it would work.
EDIT: I was told that the Magic will not listen to offers for Howard or Nelson and that unless they get overwhelmed with a proposal, they want to Keep Garrity, Battie, Hedo and Hill. They plan on doing everything necessary to resign Garrity and Battie in the offseason. I was told this, but I did not think Garrity was a FA...is he???? Furthermore, the "PLAN" for the next few years should show itself once the Magic decide what is the best deal they can get for Francis. God help the Magic with this Darko trade, I really feel he is a bust in the making.
Ok this is my longest post in a long time. I figured I needed to build up some credibility and I was getting tired of telling my coworkers about the Magic since they are basically interested in West Coast teams. Flame On...........
Fro schrieb:Oh man... Eine Radiostation in Orlando berichtet von einem Franchise/Battie für Penny/Crawford/Ariza-Trade, der jeden Augenblich vollzogen wird. WTF?
I'm listening to Stephen Smith right now as I'm typing and NY wants Francis now and Francis, Cato or Battie for Crawford, Penny, Ariza is on the table for Orlando. He also said that Orlando is having meetings to get a deal done with someone but they very well might wait until the last minute to get a better deal. Nothing is done. Nothing is offical besides that Orlando is working feverishly to change the roster.
Lendenschurz schrieb::laugh2: das meinen die doch alle ned ernst...