Ich hab mal in meinm Tyson-Buch nachgeguckt.
Scheinbar hat Tyson Ferguson zu Boden geschlagen und Ferguson wurde dann angezählt. Dannach hat Ferguson scheinbar mehrfach gehalten und wurde vom REF mehrfach aufgefordert es zu lassen. Doch Ferguson hat es nicht gelassen und wurde disqualifiziert.
Scheinbar hat Tyson Ferguson zu Boden geschlagen und Ferguson wurde dann angezählt. Dannach hat Ferguson scheinbar mehrfach gehalten und wurde vom REF mehrfach aufgefordert es zu lassen. Doch Ferguson hat es nicht gelassen und wurde disqualifiziert.
Devil schrieb:
Naja, es war ja auch kein TKO sondern eine DQ.
Ich wusste auch nicht, dass es scheinbar jetzt erst so in seinem Rekord steht.
Und ob jetzt Mc Neeley und Golota als TKO oder nicht eingetragen worde ist zwar schade, aber eigentlich egal. Denn wir wissen ja wie es war.
LG
Flex
Flex:
Hast Recht , eigentlich ist es nicht so wichtig.
Hier ein kleines Tyson-Interview:
Mike Tyson, in an exclusive interview with the New York Daily News, shed some light on his boxing career and his goal of regaining the heavyweight championship. Tyson stated that he would work with Don King again, if the situation was right.
NY DN: You have to look at the heavyweight division and think you have a chance to be champion again.
MT: You know Lamon Brewster never even hit (Wladimir) Klitschko don't you? The guy just collapsed. And him and his brother, Vitali, are running around acting like they're world beaters. (Vitali) beat Corrie Sanders and he's running around thinking he beat Muhammad Ali. Corrie Sanders came out of retirement to get paid so he could play golf … My sparring partner, Nate Tubbs, knocked out Sanders in the second round when he was in shape. When he fought Klitschko, he looked like Moby Dick.
NY DN: Vitali Klitschko said you're No. 2 on his list behind Lennox Lewis. How long would it take you to get ready for that fight?
MT: Two fights. He has to know he's horrible. When he fought Sanders, the only time the people applauded was when they announced the fight and when they said Sanders wasn't coming out for the next round. It was one of the most boring fights in boxing history.
NY DN: Can you beat the Klitschkos?
MT: If I can't beat these guys I might as well retire. They're making boxing look bad.
Hast Recht , eigentlich ist es nicht so wichtig.
Hier ein kleines Tyson-Interview:
Mike Tyson, in an exclusive interview with the New York Daily News, shed some light on his boxing career and his goal of regaining the heavyweight championship. Tyson stated that he would work with Don King again, if the situation was right.
NY DN: You have to look at the heavyweight division and think you have a chance to be champion again.
MT: You know Lamon Brewster never even hit (Wladimir) Klitschko don't you? The guy just collapsed. And him and his brother, Vitali, are running around acting like they're world beaters. (Vitali) beat Corrie Sanders and he's running around thinking he beat Muhammad Ali. Corrie Sanders came out of retirement to get paid so he could play golf … My sparring partner, Nate Tubbs, knocked out Sanders in the second round when he was in shape. When he fought Klitschko, he looked like Moby Dick.
NY DN: Vitali Klitschko said you're No. 2 on his list behind Lennox Lewis. How long would it take you to get ready for that fight?
MT: Two fights. He has to know he's horrible. When he fought Sanders, the only time the people applauded was when they announced the fight and when they said Sanders wasn't coming out for the next round. It was one of the most boring fights in boxing history.
NY DN: Can you beat the Klitschkos?
MT: If I can't beat these guys I might as well retire. They're making boxing look bad.
martin knoepfel
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Wenn der Ref Ferguson disqualifiziert hat, ist es halt kein KO-Sieg. So sind die Regeln. Lewis Sieg gegen Akinwande wird auch nicht als KO geführt. War auch DQ wegen ständigen Klammerns.
Harman
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Tyson Looking For Hawaii Showdown
Posted on Saturday, June 19 @ 11:07:46 CDT
Topic: Tyson
By Rick Reeno
Iron Mike Tyson looks to stay busy in 2004 as he is already working on his next bout. A card is already in the works for September 11, 2004 at the Aloha Stadium in Hawaii. The card would be a combo K-1/boxing event. Possible names for Tyson opponents have been named as either Jerome Le Banner (50-8-1) or Ray Sefo (45-11-1), both men have mainly done K-1 fighting. Hot prospect Brian Viloria has also been thrown around as being on the undercard.
Approval could come next month, pending completion of contracts, exams and agreement on suitable matchups. Commissioner Willes K. Lee, said, "They (promoters) have formally begun the process, but they haven't submitted anything yet."
Kann das mal jemand übersetzten? Würde Tyson unter Box oder K1 Regeln gegen Le Banner oder Sefo antreten?
Posted on Saturday, June 19 @ 11:07:46 CDT
Topic: Tyson
By Rick Reeno
Iron Mike Tyson looks to stay busy in 2004 as he is already working on his next bout. A card is already in the works for September 11, 2004 at the Aloha Stadium in Hawaii. The card would be a combo K-1/boxing event. Possible names for Tyson opponents have been named as either Jerome Le Banner (50-8-1) or Ray Sefo (45-11-1), both men have mainly done K-1 fighting. Hot prospect Brian Viloria has also been thrown around as being on the undercard.
Approval could come next month, pending completion of contracts, exams and agreement on suitable matchups. Commissioner Willes K. Lee, said, "They (promoters) have formally begun the process, but they haven't submitted anything yet."
Kann das mal jemand übersetzten? Würde Tyson unter Box oder K1 Regeln gegen Le Banner oder Sefo antreten?
M
Mike_Tyson
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Tyson war immer mein Lieblingsboxer und wirds auch bleiben, aber er ist doch schon lange nur noch eine peinliche Clownfigur beim Boxen, die zudem nichtmal boxt .
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Übrigens hat Tyson gerade eine Boxlizenz für New Jersey bekommen. Dann kann ja nichts mehr schiefgehen. New Jersey ist bekannt für spektakuläre Knockouts, aber auch für nicht ganz koschere Geschäfte im Hintergrund wie viele zugelassene Missmatches und "Familienbanden".
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sabatai
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Le Banner hat früher geboxt und ich glaube sogar einen 10-0 Rekord. Sefo hat auch geboxt und hat mit 5-1 aufgehört.
Unter K1 Regeln würde ich Sefo gegen Tyson eventuell eine Aussenseiterchance geben. Le Banner hat ein Glaskinn - der wird so oder so zerbrochen.
Mir ist egal gegen wen Tyson Kampf - hauptsache er bleibt im Training.
Unter K1 Regeln würde ich Sefo gegen Tyson eventuell eine Aussenseiterchance geben. Le Banner hat ein Glaskinn - der wird so oder so zerbrochen.
Mir ist egal gegen wen Tyson Kampf - hauptsache er bleibt im Training.
Competition
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Harman schrieb:
Ich bin von den Auftritten der Boxer im K1 bisher sehr enttäuscht, was nicht alleine an den Ergebnissen liegt. Als ich mich in einem alten Thread mal optimistisch über die Chancen von guten Boxern äußerte, ging ich davon aus, daß diese sich zumindest die Mühe machen würden, nach K1-Regeln zu trainieren und spezifische Techniken zu erlernen. Ich verlange ja nicht mal, daß Botha oder Mercer High Kicks anwenden oder auch nur eingermaßen regelmäßige Low Kicks, aber das Erlernen von Blocktechniken von Kicks dürfte einen durchschnittlich talentierten Leistungssportler nicht überfordern
. Bisher kam NICHTS von den Boxern. Sie hatten keinen Respekt vor der neuen Sportart, behielten zum Teil sogar ihre Boxerstiefel an, bewegten sich wie im Boxring und bekamen dafür zurecht die Quittung.
Sollte Tyson ebenfalls sein bewährtes Instrumentarium nur in den K1-Ring exportieren wollen, wird er gegen sehr gute "Kicker" wie Ignashov oder Cro-Cop, vielleicht auch schon gegen Sefo nicht gut aussehen.
Gruß, Competition
Harman
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Competition schrieb:Ich bin von den Auftritten der Boxer im K1 bisher sehr enttäuscht, was nicht alleine an den Ergebnissen liegt. Als ich mich in einem alten Thread mal optimistisch über die Chancen von guten Boxern äußerte, ging ich davon aus, daß diese sich zumindest die Mühe machen würden, nach K1-Regeln zu trainieren und spezifische Techniken zu erlernen. Ich verlange ja nicht mal, daß Botha oder Mercer High Kicks anwenden oder auch nur eingermaßen regelmäßige Low Kicks, aber das Erlernen von Blocktechniken von Kicks dürfte einen durchschnittlich talentierten Leistungssportler nicht überfordern
Bisher kam NICHTS von den Boxern. Sie hatten keinen Respekt vor der neuen Sportart, behielten zum Teil sogar ihre Boxerstiefel an, bewegten sich wie im Boxring und bekamen dafür zurecht die Quittung.
Sollte Tyson ebenfalls sein bewährtes Instrumentarium nur in den K1-Ring exportieren wollen, wird er gegen sehr gute "Kicker" wie Ignashov oder Cro-Cop, vielleicht auch schon gegen Sefo nicht gut aussehen.
Gruß, Competition
Ich finde die K1 Kämpfer brauchen nicht stolz drauf zu sein wenn sie einen Botha oder einen 45 Jährigen Ray Mercer besiegen. Wobei Botha die ersten drei Kämpfe sehr umstritten verlor. Mercer ist Uralt und einfach zu langsam. Ein Puncher mit ordentlich schlagkraft wie Tyson oder Briggs rechne ich sehr gute Chancen aus um die K1 Kämpfer zu schlagen. Briggs hats ja schon vor gemacht und ich denke er könnte einiges erreichen im K1-Ring. Zumindest mehr als im Boxen.
Harman
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Hier ist noch ein neues Interview miT Mike.
Congratulations on getting licensed in New Jersey! How does it feel?
It feels great! I'm so happy! You have no idea how happy I am! I can't wait to come back to New Jersey to fight. If it wasn't for Larry Hazzard, I don't know what I would do. He set a precedent by doing what he did. I was so down and out. I had no money and no place to stay. I had to borrow money from guys I knew on the street. By licensing me, Larry helped put food on my table again.
You began training on your own a couple of months ago. And, Freddie Roach has told me that you are in great shape right now and very focused. Are you pleased with how your training is going?
Very much so. I'm 229 pounds right now and I feel incredible. I've been training every day and it's great working with Freddie, Ian, Panama, Tom and Allen. They're getting me really motivated. It's very hard work, but I feel great about it.
Are you looking to regain command of the heavyweight division?
I would like to. If I work really hard, I think I can do it. I would love to win another championship!
Shelly (Finkel) has said that he is trying to get you three more fights before the end of the year. Who would you like those opponents to be?
It doesn't matter. I just want to fight. I'll be appreciative to anyone who wants to fight me.
When looking at the current crop of heavyweight fighters, there is no doubt that you can rule the division once again and unify the titles. But... there's Don King. Are you willing to deal with him once again?
I'm not mad at Don anymore. In fact, I'm not mad at anybody. I'm just happy to receive my license today! I'll fight anybody and I'll allow anybody to promote me... provided that it's profitable. I need the money!
Cus D'Amato. How do you think things would have gone if he were still alive today?
If Cus were still alive, I would have had a different life. He would have had a very positive influence over me. But thankfully, I'm still here and I can still set a precedent in the ring in his honor. I can still make a statement that he would be proud of. I miss Cus very much.
There are many people in boxing who feel strongly that your conviction of rape was a set up. Now, it's being reported that Alan Dershowitz has released a new book entitled 'America On Trial, Inside The Legal Battles That Transformed Our Nation.' In the book, he states that you did not get a fair trial and that there were many things kept from the jury. What are your thoughts on this?
When the trial was in process, I knew I didn't receive a fair trial. Evidence of my innocence was available but they wouldn't accept it. But what am I going to do? I did not rape that girl. I'm not a rapist! But I am a black man in America and people are eager to believe that I am a rapist. It's a stigma. Most guys, from communities where I come from, are born with these stigmas. It's a really horrific thing... to punish someone who is innocent. I know it's finally out in print that I didn't have a fair trial. But the problem is that people don't want to believe that I am innocent. Society doesn't want to hear that our justice system is not perfect and that there are many people who died on death row who were innocent. There are many people in jail right now who don't belong there! Our justice system is not perfect, and I was a victim of that non-perfect system. When I was sent to prison, it made me have no respect for society or cultivation. It really scarred me in such a way... that it's still really hard for me to overcome. But, I just have to keep working at it everyday.
With the demise of great trainers and fight tacticians like Cus and Eddie Futch, what do you think the quality of fighter will be like in the years to come?
It doesn't look good. Right now, fighters are calling the shots and they have no respect for their trainers. They don't listen to them and they don't want to learn. In the long run, it hurts the fighter. Passing on the knowledge of the sweet science of boxing is going to become a lost art.
Who would you liked to have fought, but never got the opportunity? Maybe Riddick Bowe or Ike Ibeabuchi?
There was never a point in my career when I considered fighting Riddick Bowe. I wouldn't fight him then and I wouldn't fight him now. He is a very good friend of mine and I love him. We went to school together. He was the good guy and I was the bad guy! (Laughing) But, uh... yeah. I would liked to have fought Ibeabuchi. That would have been an interesting fight.
In which fight do you feel you threw the most perfect punch?
I don't know. I just tried to throw them all the best I could. Cus taught me to throw everything with bad intentions.
Who was the hardest puncher you have ever faced?
Probably.... Razor Ruddock.
Your facial tattoo is kinda cool. It's similar to the ones in the film 'Once Were Warriors.' Where did you get the idea for the design? How long did it take?
The design is Maori and it took about three hours. I got it done in Las Vegas by a guy named Victor Paradox. I thought about getting the other side of my face done, but I don't think I will now. Instead, I'd like to get an extension on it. I'm thinking about having it continue down my neck and around my chest area. My last girlfriend didn't want me to do it. But, since she won't go out with me anymore... I'm going to get it done.
Every where you go, you are mobbed by fans. But when you walked into Madison Square Garden for the Byrd-Golota fight, the entire arena went crazy! How do you feel about all the admiration?
The fans gave me a tremendous reception that night and it felt really great. It made me feel anxious to get back in the ring and to give the fans something to really cheer about. I believe I'm ready to re-enter the heavyweight division now.
Congratulations on getting licensed in New Jersey! How does it feel?
It feels great! I'm so happy! You have no idea how happy I am! I can't wait to come back to New Jersey to fight. If it wasn't for Larry Hazzard, I don't know what I would do. He set a precedent by doing what he did. I was so down and out. I had no money and no place to stay. I had to borrow money from guys I knew on the street. By licensing me, Larry helped put food on my table again.
You began training on your own a couple of months ago. And, Freddie Roach has told me that you are in great shape right now and very focused. Are you pleased with how your training is going?
Very much so. I'm 229 pounds right now and I feel incredible. I've been training every day and it's great working with Freddie, Ian, Panama, Tom and Allen. They're getting me really motivated. It's very hard work, but I feel great about it.
Are you looking to regain command of the heavyweight division?
I would like to. If I work really hard, I think I can do it. I would love to win another championship!
Shelly (Finkel) has said that he is trying to get you three more fights before the end of the year. Who would you like those opponents to be?
It doesn't matter. I just want to fight. I'll be appreciative to anyone who wants to fight me.
When looking at the current crop of heavyweight fighters, there is no doubt that you can rule the division once again and unify the titles. But... there's Don King. Are you willing to deal with him once again?
I'm not mad at Don anymore. In fact, I'm not mad at anybody. I'm just happy to receive my license today! I'll fight anybody and I'll allow anybody to promote me... provided that it's profitable. I need the money!
Cus D'Amato. How do you think things would have gone if he were still alive today?
If Cus were still alive, I would have had a different life. He would have had a very positive influence over me. But thankfully, I'm still here and I can still set a precedent in the ring in his honor. I can still make a statement that he would be proud of. I miss Cus very much.
There are many people in boxing who feel strongly that your conviction of rape was a set up. Now, it's being reported that Alan Dershowitz has released a new book entitled 'America On Trial, Inside The Legal Battles That Transformed Our Nation.' In the book, he states that you did not get a fair trial and that there were many things kept from the jury. What are your thoughts on this?
When the trial was in process, I knew I didn't receive a fair trial. Evidence of my innocence was available but they wouldn't accept it. But what am I going to do? I did not rape that girl. I'm not a rapist! But I am a black man in America and people are eager to believe that I am a rapist. It's a stigma. Most guys, from communities where I come from, are born with these stigmas. It's a really horrific thing... to punish someone who is innocent. I know it's finally out in print that I didn't have a fair trial. But the problem is that people don't want to believe that I am innocent. Society doesn't want to hear that our justice system is not perfect and that there are many people who died on death row who were innocent. There are many people in jail right now who don't belong there! Our justice system is not perfect, and I was a victim of that non-perfect system. When I was sent to prison, it made me have no respect for society or cultivation. It really scarred me in such a way... that it's still really hard for me to overcome. But, I just have to keep working at it everyday.
With the demise of great trainers and fight tacticians like Cus and Eddie Futch, what do you think the quality of fighter will be like in the years to come?
It doesn't look good. Right now, fighters are calling the shots and they have no respect for their trainers. They don't listen to them and they don't want to learn. In the long run, it hurts the fighter. Passing on the knowledge of the sweet science of boxing is going to become a lost art.
Who would you liked to have fought, but never got the opportunity? Maybe Riddick Bowe or Ike Ibeabuchi?
There was never a point in my career when I considered fighting Riddick Bowe. I wouldn't fight him then and I wouldn't fight him now. He is a very good friend of mine and I love him. We went to school together. He was the good guy and I was the bad guy! (Laughing) But, uh... yeah. I would liked to have fought Ibeabuchi. That would have been an interesting fight.
In which fight do you feel you threw the most perfect punch?
I don't know. I just tried to throw them all the best I could. Cus taught me to throw everything with bad intentions.
Who was the hardest puncher you have ever faced?
Probably.... Razor Ruddock.
Your facial tattoo is kinda cool. It's similar to the ones in the film 'Once Were Warriors.' Where did you get the idea for the design? How long did it take?
The design is Maori and it took about three hours. I got it done in Las Vegas by a guy named Victor Paradox. I thought about getting the other side of my face done, but I don't think I will now. Instead, I'd like to get an extension on it. I'm thinking about having it continue down my neck and around my chest area. My last girlfriend didn't want me to do it. But, since she won't go out with me anymore... I'm going to get it done.
Every where you go, you are mobbed by fans. But when you walked into Madison Square Garden for the Byrd-Golota fight, the entire arena went crazy! How do you feel about all the admiration?
The fans gave me a tremendous reception that night and it felt really great. It made me feel anxious to get back in the ring and to give the fans something to really cheer about. I believe I'm ready to re-enter the heavyweight division now.
Fidel
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Oh, jetzt hat der gute Mike aber ein bischen überzogen:
wer sein Comeback gegen Mc Bride, Dannilein, oder Abteilung K1 plant,
sollte ein bischen die Kirche im Dorf lassen, wenn es um die derzeitigen
WM´s geht.
Schlag erstmal Holyfield, Mc Cline, Tua, Rahman o.ä., und dann darfst Du
auch die Toney-Lippe riskieren, lieber Mike!!!
wer sein Comeback gegen Mc Bride, Dannilein, oder Abteilung K1 plant,
sollte ein bischen die Kirche im Dorf lassen, wenn es um die derzeitigen
WM´s geht.
Schlag erstmal Holyfield, Mc Cline, Tua, Rahman o.ä., und dann darfst Du
auch die Toney-Lippe riskieren, lieber Mike!!!
Harman
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Er sagte lediglich nur daß er glaubt es schaffen zu können wenn er hart genug trainiert.
Mr. Orange
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Klingt eigentlich alles recht gut. Iron Mike hat wieder ne Lizenz, trainiert bei Freddie Roach und will nochmal ein Comeback machen. Ich nehme mal an mit der Boxlizenz dürfte sich auch der K1-Mist erübrigen.
Bei der jetzigen HW-Szene traue ich einem seriös vorbereiteten Tyson immer noch einiges zu, und wer weiß, vielleicht kommt es noch zum großen Kampf gegen Vitali. Sehen würde ich den Kampf auf jeden Fall gerne.
Bei der jetzigen HW-Szene traue ich einem seriös vorbereiteten Tyson immer noch einiges zu, und wer weiß, vielleicht kommt es noch zum großen Kampf gegen Vitali. Sehen würde ich den Kampf auf jeden Fall gerne.
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Ja das wäre wirklich gut wenn er gegen Vitali boxen würde und ihn in Runde 3 ausknocken würde! Wenn er jetzt noch paar Kämpfe macht und nochmal Weltmeister wird und wirklich im Ring glänzt, könnte sein angekratztes Image wieder in den Hintergrund gestellt werden und er würde wieder viel anerkennung bei den Fans bekommen und dann wäre er wirklich the gratest of all time! (zumindest für mich)