danii85
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Eurosport Deutschland hat das am Anfang gezeigt. Die gehen ja immer was eher drauf.
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So, hier die Vorstellung der Teams:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjry3hoSRY0&feature=youtu.be
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjry3hoSRY0&feature=youtu.be
danii85
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http://www.mtv3.fi/urheilu/hiihtola...tml/2012/03/1513983/suomi-romahti-makicupissa
Super 10ter Platz in der Nationenwertung.
arty: Hinter der Schweiz und hinter Russland.
Ja, da stösst Alkohol auch ans Ende seiner Möglichkeiten.
Super 10ter Platz in der Nationenwertung.
arty: Hinter der Schweiz und hinter Russland. Ja, da stösst Alkohol auch ans Ende seiner Möglichkeiten.
http://www.mtv3.fi/urheilu/hiihtola...tml/2012/03/1513803/hautamaki-aika-haikea-olo
dieses Video lÀuft in D leider auch nicht, schluchz
dieses Video lÀuft in D leider auch nicht, schluchz
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Die Sachen von mtv3 gehen generell nur in Finnland, leider.
danii85
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Soweit ich gesehen hab wird nur der Wettkampf in Rovaniemi am 31. von YLE2 ĂŒbertragen. Von Ruka am 1. hab ich nichts im Plan gesehen. Stell ich mir auch schwierig vor, das TV ĂŒber Nacht in Rov abzubauen und in Ruka wieder aufstellen. Naja mal sehen.
Ich poste gleich mal die ZeitplÀne.
Ich poste gleich mal die ZeitplÀne.
danii85
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Rovaniemi:
Pe 30.3.
17.00 Joukkueenjohtajien kokous (mÀkialueen Viipalerakennus) - TCM
La 31.3.
11.00 SM NormaalimÀen koekierros HS100 - Probedurchgang
12.00 SM NormaalimÀki HS100 kilpailu - Wertungsdurchgang
13.45 SM JoukkuemÀki alle 18 v HS100 - Teamspringen (3 Springer/Team)
Ab 11:50 auf YLE2, fĂŒr euch bei yle areena. Die letzten Jahre ging es da auch ohne LĂ€ndersperre.
Ruka:
Su 1.4.2012
10.15 SM-SuurmÀki,koekierros
11.00 SM-SuurmÀki HS 142
Pe 30.3.
17.00 Joukkueenjohtajien kokous (mÀkialueen Viipalerakennus) - TCM
La 31.3.
11.00 SM NormaalimÀen koekierros HS100 - Probedurchgang
12.00 SM NormaalimÀki HS100 kilpailu - Wertungsdurchgang
13.45 SM JoukkuemÀki alle 18 v HS100 - Teamspringen (3 Springer/Team)
Ab 11:50 auf YLE2, fĂŒr euch bei yle areena. Die letzten Jahre ging es da auch ohne LĂ€ndersperre.
Ruka:
Su 1.4.2012
10.15 SM-SuurmÀki,koekierros
11.00 SM-SuurmÀki HS 142
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danii85
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Seid ihr auch schon gespannt, was bei dem grossen KriesengesprÀch im Mai rauskommt? :hihi: Ich schon. Was machen wir eigentlich wenn die sich nich einigen und Pekka nich mehr will. Wer rÀumt dann die Sch** weg? Das sind ja alles denkbare Szenarien.
Das sind ja alles denkbare Szenarien.
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Dann ĂŒbernimmt Vili den Laden.
danii85
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Wie sollen die denn das Budget erhöhen wenn sie pleite sind? :ueberleg: Die haben in den vergangenen Jahren noch das Geld der Athleten veruntreut um die Löcher zu stopfen. Und mehr als bewerben können die sich auch nicht.
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Der braucht dann erstmal nen Psychologen. Aber ich glaube, sollte es abwegiger Weise so kommen, dann wĂŒrde APe erstmal nachrĂŒcken. Vili is fĂŒr finnjumping zu unbequem. Deswegen ist er ja auch nich mehr Co. Die geben ja Interviews.
I'm very, very afraid that we may well continue with the same personnel. It makes no sense at all because there simply is no way to explain this crash and burn, that would whitewash current coaches, and that they try tells only, that there is not any learning going on. According to Pekka (today), this season was because of Rane and Hapa quitting and bad luck with injuries. But when has Finnish jumping made any sense? So I'm afraid, that there will be no personnel changes, Pekka may still have Kojo backing him up and that is it.
Despite personnel factors there are some very important things to consider. Urheilulehti had a great article about what has went wrong lately. And also I think those things are maybe the most important things right now despite who will be a headcoach. If it's Pekka, I really hope he is more willing to take a hard look into the mirror in more private setting than he is in public (in this two years he has never publicly admitted even one mistake of his own, only blamed others.) Like many Urheilulehti's ski jumping articles, it's plausible to assume that the sources for the information are some prominent Finnish ski jumping coaches. Main things in the article are:
-When injuries start to accumulate, it usually means something is wrong in training. Not trained enough, trained wrong or unstable training. Also not rehabing well enough. Injuries do happen, but when there starts to be a lot more of them than others have, you are doing something wrong.
-Last summers training went wrong. Everyone but Anssi went worse in every way. And Anssi did train separately from A Team's program. He trained a lot of balance, basic athletic skills, versatile training. Other A Team trained for their jumping test.
-Summer competitions were blowed again. No interest from the A Team, national level jumpers jumping instead of A Team, no interest, not deemed important.
-Not giving any chances for the national level guys to challenge A Team, not giving them chances to compete anywhere (and yeah, Finns and CoC)
-Not seeing that no one else is any more having big separation between training season and competing season. Training so much physical side during the summer that technique doesn't hold. Very old-fashioned training method. Every Finnish jumper also being totally screwed with their technique and timing every year come the winter. Putting physical test scores in front of keeping technique together and then needing too much training jumps from the snow before being able to put technique back together again. For that, the timetable doesn't give them enough time, because there is competition every weekend. Others keep their technique first in the mind also during the summer and have much less need for training jumps when the season starts.
These things are not so much about the personnel, they are about the culture. Rovaniemi-model (well, Lapin Urheiluopisto-model to be exact) seems most promising right now. Lahti and Puijo have failed big time. If Pekka continues as a head coach, is he able to see this and learn?
Despite personnel factors there are some very important things to consider. Urheilulehti had a great article about what has went wrong lately. And also I think those things are maybe the most important things right now despite who will be a headcoach. If it's Pekka, I really hope he is more willing to take a hard look into the mirror in more private setting than he is in public (in this two years he has never publicly admitted even one mistake of his own, only blamed others.) Like many Urheilulehti's ski jumping articles, it's plausible to assume that the sources for the information are some prominent Finnish ski jumping coaches. Main things in the article are:
-When injuries start to accumulate, it usually means something is wrong in training. Not trained enough, trained wrong or unstable training. Also not rehabing well enough. Injuries do happen, but when there starts to be a lot more of them than others have, you are doing something wrong.
-Last summers training went wrong. Everyone but Anssi went worse in every way. And Anssi did train separately from A Team's program. He trained a lot of balance, basic athletic skills, versatile training. Other A Team trained for their jumping test.
-Summer competitions were blowed again. No interest from the A Team, national level jumpers jumping instead of A Team, no interest, not deemed important.
-Not giving any chances for the national level guys to challenge A Team, not giving them chances to compete anywhere (and yeah, Finns and CoC
)-Not seeing that no one else is any more having big separation between training season and competing season. Training so much physical side during the summer that technique doesn't hold. Very old-fashioned training method. Every Finnish jumper also being totally screwed with their technique and timing every year come the winter. Putting physical test scores in front of keeping technique together and then needing too much training jumps from the snow before being able to put technique back together again. For that, the timetable doesn't give them enough time, because there is competition every weekend. Others keep their technique first in the mind also during the summer and have much less need for training jumps when the season starts.
These things are not so much about the personnel, they are about the culture. Rovaniemi-model (well, Lapin Urheiluopisto-model to be exact) seems most promising right now. Lahti and Puijo have failed big time. If Pekka continues as a head coach, is he able to see this and learn?
danii85
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Ja klar, Rane und Hapa sind Schuld dass es so mies lÀuft. Glaubt der das eigentlich selber was er so vom Stapel lÀsst?
Ich finds grossartig, dass sich Anssi wirklich so gut entwickelt hat. DAS zeigt ja schon, dass das Trainingskonzept von Pekka nicht funktioniert.
Ich finds grossartig, dass sich Anssi wirklich so gut entwickelt hat. DAS zeigt ja schon, dass das Trainingskonzept von Pekka nicht funktioniert.