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GLASS JAW? I DIDN'T SEE IT SHATTER!
KLITSCHKO/BREWSTER A TALE OF 5 ROUNDS
by "John Q.Public"
By visiting some of the web sites today that cover boxing it has become obvious some have very little knowledge of day to day activities in the sport. I have read numerous accounts of the Vald Klitscko(42-3, 39 KOs) Lamon Brewster (30-2, 27 KOs) bout, yet most are inaccurate or ill informed. All I have read today on message boards and web sites was Klitschko has a glass jaw. If that is the truth, the Gods honest truth, then why wasn't Klitscko knocked unconscious? Could someone point out to me what round Klitschko was knocked down or unconscious in? I have emailed many today, and am still waiting for someone to reply. If his jaw was that bad Brewster should have had a much easier time with him.
BYRD DID A HORRIBLE JOB
The first subject that should be addressed is the poor officiating by the Referee Robert Byrd. Byrd obviously had an eye on Klitschko from the start of bout, cautioning Klitschko at every turn yet allowing Brewster the same actions. Byrd ruled the first knock down a slip when everyone could clearly see it was not a slip. Even the HBO crew called it a knock down.
The HBO crew pointed out the low blows by Brewster though out the fight, Byrd chose to ignore them never cautioning or reprimanding Brewster. Need I point out again Klitschko was never knocked down in this fight, despite hearing following this fight about "Klitschkos weak jaw". I believe many were caught up in the moment of the bout and chose to believe Klitschko was in fact knocked down. Can anyone tell me what round Klitschko was knocked down in? An official knock down? All I hear is he has a weak chin, a glass jaw. If Klitschko has such a weak chin wouldn't he have been knocked out? He took every hook that Brewster gave him in the 5th round and was never knocked down. The only knock down was the foul after the bell when Klitschko went to the canvas, following the fifth round.That was not an official knock down and Klitschko should have been given a chance to recover. If these web sites want to report that Klitschko ran out of gas, if they want to say he didn't pace himself, he was fatigued, I am with you on that. This story of Klitschko having a weak chin, a glass jaw, thats b u l l s h i t. Michael Grant has a glass jaw, do you see any correlation between Grant and Klitschko? I dont.
KLITSCHKO ONLY KNOCKDOWN WAS AFTER BELL IN 5TH
The knock down after the bell was a foul. One boxing web site wrote, "Klitschko crumbled to the floor with the referee attempting to hold him up. Klitschko could not get up." I watched the fight several times now and Klitschko was up and returning to his corner when the fight was called. Yes he was very weak. If you want to report that he was weak, had problems with his stamina, I am with you there too, but these reports of him just collapsing and not being able to move, again are just b u l l s h i t !
A STANDING 8 COUNT
The standing 8 count Klitschko received in the 5th round could have been called also against Brewster in the previous round. Klitschko received a standing 8, but the idea the ropes were the only thing holding him up, again, b u l l s h i t. He wasn't going down and thats a fact. Hell after listening to the commentators I even believed he was going down. After listening to Roy Jones I believed Klitschko had a chin made of china and had been knocked down 20 times in that fight. Lamply said that Klitschko chin was worse than that of Lewis. If that was the case, Klitschko would have been stretched the way Lewis was against Rahman. Does the younger Klitschko brother have a glass chin? After watching him take a barrage of hits from Brewster in that 5th round, I would say no he doesn't. But will that stop the lies? No it wont.
ROY JONES A PATHETIC WEASEL
Am I the only on who is questioning the garbage coming from the mouth of Roy Jones Jr? The self bolstering crap he was full of? Lets set the record straight about Roy Jones and the Klitschkos; One year ago Roy Jones was the WBA champion at heavyweight. The #1 contender was Vitali Klitschko. If Jones felt at that time that either of the Klitschkos couldn't take what they dish, he had the opportunity to show the world. No Jones didn't show the world anything. The fraudulent excuse from Jones for not facing Vitali Klitschko was a motorcycle had fallen on his hand, he was injured. Everyone knew at the time that it was a lie. Last night, hiding behind a HBO microphone Jones reminded me of a little girl hiding behind her mommas skirt. I know Jones has not forgotten the beating Chris Byrd took at the hand of Vlad four years ago. Did he forget that was a 12 round fight, in which Byrd took a 12 round ass kicking? This is the same Chris Byrd whom Roy Jones could have fought in a unification fight at heavyweight but refused to. But that is nothing new, Jones has refused many fights in his career with the well wishes from HBO.
JONES DUCKED SANDERS AND WANTED WBO BELT
There was no mention last night from Lampley about Corrie Sanders giving up his WBO belt so he could fight Jones Jr. Hey Jim did we forget to mention that on the air? Its true people, Corrie Sanders had signed to fight Jones Jr. Jones had everyone believing that he was about to fight Sanders. When Sanders chose to give up the WBO belt Jones Jr pulled out of the fight, saying there was no reason to fight Sanders. This is the same Sanders who knocked out Vlad Klitschko. I am still puzzled by that move by Jones. If the WBO is an off brand title with no meaning to you, why back out of a fight that you told everyone you were taking? This is classic Roy Jones. Talk the talk, yet never back it up. I am not sure about anyone else but I think it was distasteful the way Jones carried himself last night. Yes people, I concur he will be in the hall of fame some day, and yes before the emails start flooding in, he has talent. This isn't about his talent, its about Jones Jr the person. A two faced, back stabbing weasel who doesn't have an ounce of credibility in his body. What a low life he proved to be after the bout. I thought Lampley did a poor job of challenging the stand Jones took. All I saw was that gleam in the eye of Jim, like he was in love with Jones. Hey Jim, the next time Roy decides to toot his own horn, how bout showing some balls, knock him down a few notches. For a second there last night, I thought it was the "Roy and Jim Love Hour".
GIVE BREWSTER CREDIT HE DID GET THE VICTORY
Lamon Brewster seems like a decent guy and should be given credit for his win against Vlad Klitschko last night. Despite being a 10-1 underdog and taking a beating for 4 rounds, ultimately he was victorious. Even if Klitschko would have been given time to recover following the foul at the end of the 5th round, I seriously doubt he would have been able to pull it together to win the fight. If nothing more, the out come of this bout sets both fighters up for a nice payday in a rematch. Are you listening Universum?
IT WASN'T THE GLASS JAW, WHY WAS KLITSCHO SO FATIGUED?
During the Juda/Spinks bout we got a glimpse of Klitschko warming up in his dressing room. At first I thought I was looking at a white version of Lennox Lewis. Early in the bout it became clear that Emanuel Steward had trained Klitschko in the same manner he had trained Lennox Lewis. Vlad came out of his corner hugging, mugging and holding in ways I had never seen him in do in the past. Being the large man Klitschko is, could it be possible this new method of boxing caused the fatigue in him? I would be interested in hearing Stewards response to this.
KLITSCHKO HAS TO FIGHT THE REMATCH
I have to admit the result of last nights bout was disappointing too many. Regardless of the outcome, and what you may read around the Internet, Klitschko was the better fighter in the ring. Klitschko was winning the bout for four and a half rounds before fatigue set in. But it wasn't a four and a half round fight, it was a 12 round fight. There is no doubt in the choice Vlad Klitschko has to make next. Vlad is in a corner with no where to go at this point but to a rematch with Lamon Brewster. Vitali, his older brother cant redeem him this time. The only person who can do that is Vlad himself. Vlad Klitschko has two choices before him; Redemption or Retirement.
A.C. McCoy is a freelance journalist who resides in Louisville, Kentucky. To contact A.C. McCoy send comments to
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Brewster Over Klitschko By 5th Round “Pass-out”?
Author: Europa 56ko (---.pool81114.interbusiness.it)
Date: 04-12-04 15:48
Brewster Over Klitschko By 5th Round “Pass-out”?
11.04.04 – By Aidan Monaghan - I’m no doctor. But Dr Wladimir Klitschko was not KO’d by Lamon Brewster either, he passed out on him ... seemingly fell asleep. With all due respect to Lamon Brewster, he barely laid a glove on Klitschko during the entire bout, save for a strong left jab to the head and a decent body blow early on. Something is just not right physically with Dr. Klitschko. Even a good 30 seconds before Klitschko began to hopelessly stagger about the ring and before Lamon Brewster initiated his final finishing flurries, Klitschko’s mouth can be seen hanging open and he even seemed to have trouble keeping his eyes open. He was going to sleep.
Yes, Wladimir has had a history of apparent conditioning problems, but none like on Saturday night. And when contrasted with his brisk pace in a KO win over Ray Mercer over 6 rounds 2 years ago, one has to wonder “What suddenly went so wrong and why?” Does the good Doctor have some very serious underlying health condition? (He wasn’t even gasping for breath just prior to the KO, he was just seemingly going to sleep on his feet) A fragile ticker unable to sustain his huge mesomorphic physique? Or was the seeming stamina problem due to the energy that was expended through the much higher rate of foot movement evident early on, a product of the new training regimen of Emanuel Steward?
Only time will tell. But has the clock run out on Wladimir Klitschko - at 28? In any event, a thorough physical examination of this seeming physical specimen might be in order, for his sake. At 28, he has a lot more to lose than a simple boxing match.
Wlad: I was suddenly weak!
Author: carlos mother (---.lond.broadband.ntl.com)
Date: 04-12-04 17:03
Wlad: I was suddenly weak!
April 12, 2004
By Lisa Scott
Photo: Roger Williams
On Saturday night, Wladimir Klitschko looked to be well on his way to winning the vacant WBO heavyweight title as he easily manhandled underdog, Lamon Brewster (30-2; 27 KO's). However, something was amiss in the 28 year old Klitschko (42-3; 39 KO's). Upon returning to his corner after the first round, Klitschko appeared to be exhausted and as the bout wore on, his energy gauge quickly plummeted towards sub zero levels. Eventually, referee Robert Byrd waved the fight off at the conclusion of the fifth round when Klitschko was barely able to walk back to his corner.
Past performance wins against Jameel McCline (TKO10) and Chris Byrd (UD12), proved that stamina was never an issue for the 6'7" Ukranian fighter.
Immediately after the fight, Klitschko was taken to the hospital for observation and tests. His exhaustion was so acute that he was unable to speak.
Fightnews spoke to Klitschko yesterday afternoon to see how he was and to get his explanation regarding this odd turn of events. He stated: "I have absolutely no explanation why I became so weak during the fight. From the middle of the first round, I was totally exhausted. As the rounds went on I became weaker and weaker and I don't know why. I did not become weak because of the punches. I know this because in the third round, I received a punch - but I saw that punch and it did not effect me. I didn't become weak because of it. In the fourth round, I knocked Lamon down twice and I knew I had him hurt. I knew I was going to win the fight. But, I could not finish him because I was so weak. Eventually, we both fell to the canvas. But, I was so weak that I couldn't get up. In fact, the referee grabbed my arm to help me. If he did not do that, I would not have made it back to my corner. I have no idea why this happened.
"Also, my trainer Emanuel Steward has no idea either. He told me that in all his years, in hundreds of fights, that he has never seen any situation like that, where a fighter becomes totally weakened early in the first round. In the middle of the first round, my legs felt like rubber. I did not have the feeling as if I punched myself out. The feeling was much, much different. In training for this fight, my pace was a lot higher than in the fight. I was throwing much more combinations and didn't have any problem with weakness. I know fighters can punch themselves out and over pace themselves - but that doesn't happen in the first round! After the fight, I went to the hospital and when I came back to my hotel room, I slept for over 10 hours!
"At the hospital, the CAT scans were normal and everything else was fine. I will know the official results of my blood test tomorrow (Monday) or Tuesday. But, I have no explanation for my sudden weakness and I'm not looking for excuses. I lost the fight and I congratulate Lamon on his victory."
Early Sunday morning, rumors were actively circulated that Klitschko's preliminary blood work detected abnormal levels of blood sugar - and the presence of a viral infection. However, such is inconclusive until the final test results are released. It is standard practice for Doctors to administer second and third blood tests if the preliminary blood work discovers an irregularity. Generally, pre-fight medicals are intended to disclose any abnormalities
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