Ach, okay, danke. Hatte ich komplett vergessen.
Saric? Hab bisher überhaupt nichts von ihm gesehen, aber Muhammad gilt doch egtl. schon als beschlossener Nr. 1 Pick, so wie ich das in den letzten Wochen/Monaten mitbekommen habe.
Ach, okay, danke. Hatte ich komplett vergessen.
Saric? Hab bisher überhaupt nichts von ihm gesehen, aber Muhammad gilt doch egtl. schon als beschlossener Nr. 1 Pick, so wie ich das in den letzten Wochen/Monaten mitbekommen habe.
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Saric vor Muhammad ist mutig. Saric ist warscheinlich das derzeit größte Eurotalent, dass nicht gedraftet wurde. Aber an Muhammad kommt er nicht vorbei. Allein der Hype der in den USA um ihn gemacht wird, erinnert stark an Oden oder James.
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Joa zusammen mit diesem Herren namens Nerlens Noel...Wohl der stärkste true Big-Men das Draftjahrganges 2013..
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Ja, ich hör immer die Kobe Bryant Vergleiche, aber Muhammad ist nicht so überragend. In jedem Fall kein James oder Oden. Eher Rose, Anthony oder Durant. Momentan ist er frontrunner für die #1 in 2013, aber ich denke am Ende des Tages wird es Saric. Der Typ ist einfach unglaublich. Closest thing to Larry Bird, since Larry Bird.
Der beste Spieler auf US-Highschool-Level ist IMHO ohnehin nicht Muhammad, sondern Jabari Parker. Aber ist erst 2014 eligible, und damit wird's so langsam off topic.
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Ich bin mir weder bei Barnes noch bei Robinson sicher, dass sie Top5 gesetzt sind. Kann mir bei beiden vorstellen, dass sie eher Richtung Nr. 8 oder 10 rutschen. Bei Meyers Leonard könnte auch Top5 drin sein, wenn er gute Workouts hat - der Typ wird eh nur auf Potenzialbasis gedraftet werden. Brad Beal ist für mich ein potenzieller Steal, der Junge ist super.
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Lol was soll man davon halten :
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/219189/NBA_GM_Not_Impressed_By_Potential_Draft_Pool
Hier spricht ein GM darüber das der Draftjahrgang im Moment nicht das hält was es im Juli noch versprochen hatte.Einzig und allein bleibt nach dessen Meinung Anthony Davis unantastbar.Die anderen Spieler würden den Erwartungen hinterherhinken und hätten essentielle bzw. immernoch die gleichen Schwächen. Er geht sogar soweit um zu sagen das dieser Draftjahrgang nicht besser werden würde als der letztjährige zumindest zweifelt er dies stark an.
Nur Kidd-Gilchrist und Zeller hätten eine Entwicklung genommen und die Erwartungen erfüllt..
Also ganz schön kritische Worte gegenüber dem "göttlichen" Jahrgang..
Kann doch nur einer sein der nix mit der Lottery zu tun haben wird oder
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/219189/NBA_GM_Not_Impressed_By_Potential_Draft_Pool
Hier spricht ein GM darüber das der Draftjahrgang im Moment nicht das hält was es im Juli noch versprochen hatte.Einzig und allein bleibt nach dessen Meinung Anthony Davis unantastbar.Die anderen Spieler würden den Erwartungen hinterherhinken und hätten essentielle bzw. immernoch die gleichen Schwächen. Er geht sogar soweit um zu sagen das dieser Draftjahrgang nicht besser werden würde als der letztjährige zumindest zweifelt er dies stark an.
Nur Kidd-Gilchrist und Zeller hätten eine Entwicklung genommen und die Erwartungen erfüllt..
Also ganz schön kritische Worte gegenüber dem "göttlichen" Jahrgang..
Kann doch nur einer sein der nix mit der Lottery zu tun haben wird oder
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Kann mich gar nicht daran erinnern, dass der Jahrgang jemals für so toll gehalten wurde?
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Doch wurde er. Vor der Saison wurde er als der tiefste Draft seit Jahren gehandelt. Auch weil von Barnes, Sullinger und den beiden Joneses, in ihrem zweiten Jahr, eine Leistungsexplosion erwartet wurde und mit Davis und Drummond die beiden größten Big-Man Talente seit Jahren ins erste Jahr gingen.
Ich halte den Draft immernoch für sehr tief. Es gibt ja auch positive Überraschungen wie eben Zeller, Wroten oder MKG. Aber auch Leonard, Moultrie, Lamb, Robinson, Marshall oder Lillard haben ihren Draftwert gesteigert. Allerdings denke ich das Rivers, Drummond und McAdoo für ein weiteres Jahr ans College zurückgehen werden.
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Donnerwetter : Geht zwar nicht um diesen Draftjahrgang jedoch um den nächsten, denn Shabazz Muhammeds Spielberechtigung wird jetzt schon von der NCAA angezweifelt bzw. in Frage gestellt
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebas...e-wary-over-top-recruit-muhammads-eligibility
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebas...e-wary-over-top-recruit-muhammads-eligibility
Kann jemand mehr zu Reggie Hamilton (Sr., Oakland) sagen (abgesehen von den offensichtlichen 5-11, die ihn als zu klein abstempeln) ? Keine der großen Draftsites hat viel zu erzählen. Dabei ist er der Nations Leading Scorer (25.5 PPG), und trifft über 40% der 3er und fast 90% bei fast 8 Versuchen von der Freiwurflinie. Wie gesagt: Mehr Infos würden mich freuen.
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"Hamilton, the nation’s leading scorer, has scored over 30 points in 10 games this season, and he has scored over 40 points in two games. His ability to push the tempo and get to the basket is un-paralleled in the Summit League, and he is a tough guard for any opposing team. His style of play is reminiscent of a young, lean (and in better shape) version of Baron Davis. "
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Danke für die Mühe. Allerdings kenne ich diesen Text schon und gerade der letzte Satz hat mich erst neugierig gemacht. Wenn hier sonst niemand Oakland bzw. Hamilton gesehen hat, muss ich wohl selber ein Spiel ansehen oder warten, ob/bis eine von den Draftsites einen Report schreibt.
Der erste Underclassmen, der einen Agenten nimmt und damit sicher im 2012 Draft ist, ist Freshman Moe Harkless von St. John's. Momentan als mid 1st Round Pick gehandelt. Die Franchise, welche ihn draftet, muss aber Geduld mit ihm haben. Sofortigen Impact wird er nicht geben. Als NBA-Comparison gebe ich Al-Farouq Aminu.
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Wens interessiert, hier der erste Versuch von ESPNs Draft Guru. Mehr als einen Versuch kann man das aber nicht nennen, weil man ja noch nicht genau weiß, welche Franchise wo pickt und welcher Spieler drin ist und wer nicht. Trotzdem sicher ganz interessant.
1. Charlotte
Anthony Davis
Position: PF
Height: 6-foot-10
Weight: 220 pounds
Age: 19
School: Kentucky
Analysis: If the Bobcats are lucky enough to win the lottery, they'll land the consensus No. 1 player in the draft -- Davis. Davis is already a nightmare on the defensive end and is an emerging force on the offensive side. Pair him together with Bismack Biyombo on the front line, and I'm not sure anyone will score in the paint against the Bobcats.
2. Washington
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
Position: SF
Height: 6-foot-7
Weight: 210 pounds
Age: 18
School: Kentucky
Analysis: The Wizards are desperately trying to change their culture, and landing Kidd-Gilchrist would be a major move in the right direction. He's not the most polished player in the draft, but few players work harder on either end of the floor. He cares more about winning than stats and would immediately add energy, toughness and heart to a team that urgently needs all three.
However, Kidd-Gilchrist told reporters near the end of the regular season that he'll return to Kentucky for another season. If that holds true and the Wizards can't get him, Thomas Robinson or Harrison Barnes are their next best options.
3. New Orleans
Thomas Robinson
Position: PF
Height: 6-foot-9
Weight: 237 pounds
Age: 21
School: Kansas
Analysis: The Hornets have a tough call here. Andre Drummond has more upside and Perry Jones would be tempting. But if they're trying to build a team around winners, Robinson is the guy. He would bring toughness, physicality and energy to the paint for the Hornets.
4. Portland (via Nets)
Bradley Beal
Position: SG
Height: 6-foot-5
Weight: 195 pounds
Age: 18
School: Florida
Analysis: The Blazers grabbed this pick from the Nets as part of the Gerald Wallace trade last week. The pick is top-three protected, so if the Nets keep losing, it will revert back to New Jersey. For now, this is the best-case scenario for the Blazers, who have a lot of needs after blowing the team up. And shooting guard is a big one.
Beal hasn't had a domiant freshman season, but his scoring ability in the backcourt would help the Blazers get over the loss of Brandon Roy a little sooner.
5. Toronto
Harrison Barnes
Position: SF
Height: 6-foot-8
Weight: 210 pounds
Age: 19
School: North Carolina
Analysis: The Raptors have been looking for a legit small forward for several years and Barnes would be a perfect fit. While he hasn't had the elite season we expected (those early Kobe comparisons have totally faded), he's still a lethal shooter who could turn into a Danny Granger/Glen Rice sort of player down the road.
6. Detroit
Andre Drummond
Position: C
Height: 6-foot-11
Weight: 275 pounds
Age: 18
School: UConn
Analysis: The Pistons are in desperate need of size and athleticism in the front court. While Drummond is a bit of a gamble, it's a risk worth taking at this point in the draft. He has all the physical tools to be a dominant big man in the pros. Although he was really inconsistent during his freshman season at UConn, with time and patience he could be the perfect complement to Greg Monroe on the front line.
7. Sacramento
James Michael McAdoo
Position: PF
Height: 6-foot-9
Weight: 233 pounds
Age: 19
School: North Carolina
Analysis: McAdoo's appearance this high might raise some eyebrows since he's been a backup for most of the season and hasn't put up great numbers. But he's played very well ever since John Henson went down with a wrist injury. Plus, his upside is really high. On the Kings, DeMarcus Cousins, Tyreke Evans and Marcus Thornton take most of the shots, so they need a player like McAdoo who can make an impact without the ball.
If McAdoo doesn't declare for this year's draft, however, I wouldn't be shocked to see the Kings roll the dice with Baylor's Perry Jones.
8. Cleveland
Cody Zeller
Position: C
Height: 6-foot-11
Weight: 210 pounds
Age: 19
School: Indiana
Analysis: The Cavs passed on drafting big man Jonas Valanciunas last year, so I don't think they'll pass on a big man again this year. They may have a greater need at the wing, but Zeller would give them a long-term answer at the 5.
One of the most efficient players in the country this season, Zeller has the quickness and skill level NBA teams like out of centers. The only caveat? Zeller, like Kidd-Gilchrist, is seriously considering returning to school for his sophomore season. If he does, expect the Cavs to go after a wing like Jeremy Lamb.
9. Utah (via Warriors)
Damian Lillard
Position: PG
Height: 6-foot-2
Weight: 185 pounds
Age: 21
School: Weber State
Analysis: The Jazz have talented young players at every position except point guard. Enes Kanter is the center of the future, Derrick Favors is set to take over at power forward, Gordon Hayward is already doing his thing at small forward, and the team is high on Alec Burks at the 2.
Enter Lillard. While the Jazz won't just draft to fill a position, Lillard is as talented as anyone in this range. He's more of a scorer than a pure point guard, but his ability to hit jump shots and get his teammates involved will be alluring to the Jazz.
10. Milwaukee
Perry Jones
Position: PF
Height: 6-foot-11
Weight: 235 pounds
Age: 20
School: Baylor
Analysis: The Bucks traded Andrew Bogut at the deadline for Monta Ellis. While Ellis will help with some of their scoring needs in the backcourt, the loss of Bogut creates some long-term problems up front. But with no elite center at this point in the draft, there's no exact fit here.
So I think the Bucks should do what they did with Brandon Jennings -- take the best talent available and hope they can bring out his potential.
11. Portland
Tyler Zeller
Position: C
Height: 7-foot-0
Weight: 235 pounds
Age: 22
School: North Carolina
Analysis: If the Blazers can land Beal with their first pick, they would likely look to fill their holes at center or point guard. In a weak point guard draft, their two available options here would be Kendall Marshall and Tony Wroten Jr. While both have strengths, I think the Blazers would go big and take Zeller. He's not going to be a star, but he runs the floor like a guard and has gotten better every year.
12. New Orleans (via Wolves)
Kendall Marshall
Position: PG
Height: 6-foot-4
Weight: 188 pounds
Age: 20
School: North Carolina
Analysis: The Hornets gave up the best point guard in the NBA when they traded Chris Paul to the Clippers. They aren't going to be able to replace him in this draft. But the consolation prize is Marshall -- the best pure point guard in the draft. He wouldn't be the dynamic scorer that Paul was in New Orleans, but he would make everyone around him better.
13. Phoenix
Jared Sullinger
Position: PF
Height: 6-foot-9
Weight: 280 pounds
Age: 20
School: Ohio State
Analysis: Sullinger doesn't necessarily fill a need -- the Suns drafted Markieff Morris to play the 4 last year -- but he's the best player left on the board and the type of guy who could immediately give Phoenix a very different but dominant look in the paint.
14. Utah
Jeremy Lamb
Position: SG
Height: 6-foot-5
Weight: 185 pounds
Age: 19
School: UConn
Analysis: Lamb has elite talent, but his laid-back demeanor has given some scouts pause. Higher in the draft, he's a bit of a risk. But down here he's a good bargain for the Jazz as they continue to rebuild their backcourt.
15. Houston (via Knicks)
John Henson
Position: PF
Height: 6-foot-10
Weight: 210 pounds
Age: 21
School: North Carolina
Analysis: The Rockets lack long, athletic bigs, and Henson would give them a defensive presence who can guard both forward positions. He's still raw offensively, but he has a little Andrei Kirilenko in his game.
16. New Jersey (via Rockets)
Quincy Miller
Position: SF
Height: 6-foot-9
Weight: 210 pounds
Age: 19
School: Baylor
Analysis: Miller is another player on this list who might be better off returning to school. He's a blue-chip talent, but with another year to heal from an ACL tear in high school and more time in the weight room to bulk up a bit, he could go 10 spots higher in next year's draft. If he stays in the draft, the Nets won't let him slip too far.
17. Boston
Terrence Jones
Position: PF
Height: 6-foot-8
Weight: 244 pounds
Age: 20
School: Kentucky
Analysis: Jones is one of those players with top-five talent who doesn't play like it on a consistent basis. That is a gamble the Celtics should be willing to take at this spot in the draft. They did the same thing a few years ago with Rajon Rondo and it paid off big. The similarity between the two? Both players believed in their games, even when their coaches didn't. Jones could be the second coming of Antoine Walker.
18. Denver
Meyers Leonard
Position: C
Height: 7-foot-0
Weight: 240 pounds
Age: 20
School: Illinois
Analysis: The Nuggets traded Nene for JaVale McGee, but they could still use more size in the middle. Leonard is pretty raw, but he's a terrific athlete who can play good defense right away.
19. Atlanta
Tony Wroten Jr.
Position: PG
Height: 6-foot-5
Weight: 205 pounds
Age: 18
School: Washington
Analysis: The Hawks have been searching for their point guard of the future for a long time. Jeff Teague has been solid, but he doesn't have nearly the upside that Wroten has. If Wroten had a better reputation (and a better jump shot) he might be a top-five pick. Some scouts see him as another Gary Payton, but he's wild and can get out of control, and that may scare the Hawks away.
20. Philadelphia
Andrew Nicholson
Position: PF
Height: 6-foot-9
Weight: 222 pounds
Age: 22
School: St. Bonaventure
Analysis: The Sixers still could use size. Elton Brand won't be around forever and the team's next 4 off the bench is Lavoy Allen. Nicholson has gotten dramatically better every year and has some David West to his game. He would be a good fit in Philly and could contribute right away.
21. Houston (via Mavericks)
Austin Rivers
Position: SG
Height: 6-foot-4
Weight: 199 pounds
Age: 19
School: Duke
Analysis: The Mavericks sent this pick to the Lakers as part of the Lamar Odom trade and then the Lakers turned around and sent it to the Rockets as part of the Derek Fisher deal. The pick is top-20 protected.
There are a lot of opinions floating out there about Rivers. Many scouts have been disappointed with his play and think he needs to return to Duke for his sophomore season. But a handful think he has the potential to be special thanks to his quick crossover, high basketball IQ and killer mentality on the court. At pick No. 21, the upside-to-risk ratio strongly favors the Rockets, who really need to build around some star power.
22. Memphis
Patric Young
Position: C
Height: 6-foot-9
Weight: 245 pounds
Age: 20
School: Florida
Analysis: The Grizzlies are looking for toughness and defense in the frontcourt, and Young brings both. He doesn't do much of anything on the offensive end, but he has Ben Wallace-like potential on the defensive end of the floor. Young has stated that he'll be returning to Florida for his junior season. If that's true, St. Bonaventure's Andrew Nicholson or Mississippi State's Arnett Moultrie could get the call here.
23. Indiana
Terrence Ross
Position: SG
Height: 6-foot-6
Weight: 190 pounds
Age: 21
School: Washington
Analysis: The Pacers are really stacked just about everywhere, so they'll take the best talent on the board. Ross is both an excellent athlete and a terrific shooter. He has some star power to his game, he just hasn't totally harnessed it yet.
24. Boston (via Clippers)
Arnett Moultrie
Position: PF
Height: 6-foot-11
Weight: 225 pounds
Age: 21
School: Mississippi State
Analysis: Moultrie has all the physical tools to be a dominant NBA player. He's long and super-athletic, and he can even get things done on the perimeter. He's just taken a little longer to develop. He would be a good get here for the Celtics.
25. Orlando
C.J. Leslie
Position: PF
Height: 6-foot-8
Weight: 206 pounds
Age: 20
School: NC State
Analysis: Leslie may be one of the best athletes in the draft. He's still stuck a little bit between the 3 and the 4, but his game has really matured over the past few months. He's a top-10 talent and worth the risk here.
Cleveland (via Lakers)
26. Jeff Taylor
Position: SF
Height: 6-foot-7
Weight: 225 pounds
Age: 22
School: Vanderbilt
Analysis: Taylor is another elite athlete who can play way above the rim. What he's lacked for most of his career is a great jump shot. But Taylor has improved dramatically in that area lately, making him a lethal weapon on both ends of the floor. The Cavs really need help at the 3, making him a nice match.
27. Golden State(via Spurs)
Dion Waiters
Position: SG
Height: 6-foot-4
Weight: 215 pounds
Age: 20
School: Syracuse
Analysis: The Warriors lost one of the most relentless drivers in the game when they shipped Monta Ellis off to Milwaukee. Waiters would be able to fill some of that void as an electric scorer off the bench.
28. Miami
Draymond Green
Position: SF
Height: 6-foot-6
Weight: 235 pounds
Age: 22
School: Michigan State
Analysis: The Heat need players with experience who excel in bringing out the best in their teammates. Green can be a point-forward type who does a little bit of everything. Think of him as a better-passing Udonis Haslem.
29. Oklahoma City
Mason Plumlee
Position: PF
Height: 6-foot-10
Weight: 230 pounds
Age: 22
School: Duke
Analysis: Plumlee's upside is probably similar to that of the Pacers' Jeff Foster. While he won't be a dominant player on either end of the floor, he's big, he'll defend and he'll flush things around the rim.
30. Chicago
Moe Harkless
Position: SF
Height: 6-foot-8
Weight: 190 pounds
Age: 18
School: St. John's
Analysis: Harkless reminds me a little of Trevor Ariza. He is a terrific scorer and defender who needs to get a more settled jump shot. Although the Bulls need a shooter, Harkless would be tough to pass up here if he's still on the board.
Next Five In: Tony Mitchell, North Texas; Royce White, Iowa State; BJ Young, Arkansas; C.J. McCollum, Lehigh; Josh Smith, UCLA.
Wens interessiert, hier der erste Versuch von ESPNs Draft Guru. Mehr als einen Versuch kann man das aber nicht nennen, weil man ja noch nicht genau weiß, welche Franchise wo pickt und welcher Spieler drin ist und wer nicht. Trotzdem sicher ganz interessant.
1. Charlotte
Anthony Davis
Position: PF
Height: 6-foot-10
Weight: 220 pounds
Age: 19
School: Kentucky
Analysis: If the Bobcats are lucky enough to win the lottery, they'll land the consensus No. 1 player in the draft -- Davis. Davis is already a nightmare on the defensive end and is an emerging force on the offensive side. Pair him together with Bismack Biyombo on the front line, and I'm not sure anyone will score in the paint against the Bobcats.
2. Washington
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
Position: SF
Height: 6-foot-7
Weight: 210 pounds
Age: 18
School: Kentucky
Analysis: The Wizards are desperately trying to change their culture, and landing Kidd-Gilchrist would be a major move in the right direction. He's not the most polished player in the draft, but few players work harder on either end of the floor. He cares more about winning than stats and would immediately add energy, toughness and heart to a team that urgently needs all three.
However, Kidd-Gilchrist told reporters near the end of the regular season that he'll return to Kentucky for another season. If that holds true and the Wizards can't get him, Thomas Robinson or Harrison Barnes are their next best options.
3. New Orleans
Thomas Robinson
Position: PF
Height: 6-foot-9
Weight: 237 pounds
Age: 21
School: Kansas
Analysis: The Hornets have a tough call here. Andre Drummond has more upside and Perry Jones would be tempting. But if they're trying to build a team around winners, Robinson is the guy. He would bring toughness, physicality and energy to the paint for the Hornets.
4. Portland (via Nets)
Bradley Beal
Position: SG
Height: 6-foot-5
Weight: 195 pounds
Age: 18
School: Florida
Analysis: The Blazers grabbed this pick from the Nets as part of the Gerald Wallace trade last week. The pick is top-three protected, so if the Nets keep losing, it will revert back to New Jersey. For now, this is the best-case scenario for the Blazers, who have a lot of needs after blowing the team up. And shooting guard is a big one.
Beal hasn't had a domiant freshman season, but his scoring ability in the backcourt would help the Blazers get over the loss of Brandon Roy a little sooner.
5. Toronto
Harrison Barnes
Position: SF
Height: 6-foot-8
Weight: 210 pounds
Age: 19
School: North Carolina
Analysis: The Raptors have been looking for a legit small forward for several years and Barnes would be a perfect fit. While he hasn't had the elite season we expected (those early Kobe comparisons have totally faded), he's still a lethal shooter who could turn into a Danny Granger/Glen Rice sort of player down the road.
6. Detroit
Andre Drummond
Position: C
Height: 6-foot-11
Weight: 275 pounds
Age: 18
School: UConn
Analysis: The Pistons are in desperate need of size and athleticism in the front court. While Drummond is a bit of a gamble, it's a risk worth taking at this point in the draft. He has all the physical tools to be a dominant big man in the pros. Although he was really inconsistent during his freshman season at UConn, with time and patience he could be the perfect complement to Greg Monroe on the front line.
7. Sacramento
James Michael McAdoo
Position: PF
Height: 6-foot-9
Weight: 233 pounds
Age: 19
School: North Carolina
Analysis: McAdoo's appearance this high might raise some eyebrows since he's been a backup for most of the season and hasn't put up great numbers. But he's played very well ever since John Henson went down with a wrist injury. Plus, his upside is really high. On the Kings, DeMarcus Cousins, Tyreke Evans and Marcus Thornton take most of the shots, so they need a player like McAdoo who can make an impact without the ball.
If McAdoo doesn't declare for this year's draft, however, I wouldn't be shocked to see the Kings roll the dice with Baylor's Perry Jones.
8. Cleveland
Cody Zeller
Position: C
Height: 6-foot-11
Weight: 210 pounds
Age: 19
School: Indiana
Analysis: The Cavs passed on drafting big man Jonas Valanciunas last year, so I don't think they'll pass on a big man again this year. They may have a greater need at the wing, but Zeller would give them a long-term answer at the 5.
One of the most efficient players in the country this season, Zeller has the quickness and skill level NBA teams like out of centers. The only caveat? Zeller, like Kidd-Gilchrist, is seriously considering returning to school for his sophomore season. If he does, expect the Cavs to go after a wing like Jeremy Lamb.
9. Utah (via Warriors)
Damian Lillard
Position: PG
Height: 6-foot-2
Weight: 185 pounds
Age: 21
School: Weber State
Analysis: The Jazz have talented young players at every position except point guard. Enes Kanter is the center of the future, Derrick Favors is set to take over at power forward, Gordon Hayward is already doing his thing at small forward, and the team is high on Alec Burks at the 2.
Enter Lillard. While the Jazz won't just draft to fill a position, Lillard is as talented as anyone in this range. He's more of a scorer than a pure point guard, but his ability to hit jump shots and get his teammates involved will be alluring to the Jazz.
10. Milwaukee
Perry Jones
Position: PF
Height: 6-foot-11
Weight: 235 pounds
Age: 20
School: Baylor
Analysis: The Bucks traded Andrew Bogut at the deadline for Monta Ellis. While Ellis will help with some of their scoring needs in the backcourt, the loss of Bogut creates some long-term problems up front. But with no elite center at this point in the draft, there's no exact fit here.
So I think the Bucks should do what they did with Brandon Jennings -- take the best talent available and hope they can bring out his potential.
11. Portland
Tyler Zeller
Position: C
Height: 7-foot-0
Weight: 235 pounds
Age: 22
School: North Carolina
Analysis: If the Blazers can land Beal with their first pick, they would likely look to fill their holes at center or point guard. In a weak point guard draft, their two available options here would be Kendall Marshall and Tony Wroten Jr. While both have strengths, I think the Blazers would go big and take Zeller. He's not going to be a star, but he runs the floor like a guard and has gotten better every year.
12. New Orleans (via Wolves)
Kendall Marshall
Position: PG
Height: 6-foot-4
Weight: 188 pounds
Age: 20
School: North Carolina
Analysis: The Hornets gave up the best point guard in the NBA when they traded Chris Paul to the Clippers. They aren't going to be able to replace him in this draft. But the consolation prize is Marshall -- the best pure point guard in the draft. He wouldn't be the dynamic scorer that Paul was in New Orleans, but he would make everyone around him better.
13. Phoenix
Jared Sullinger
Position: PF
Height: 6-foot-9
Weight: 280 pounds
Age: 20
School: Ohio State
Analysis: Sullinger doesn't necessarily fill a need -- the Suns drafted Markieff Morris to play the 4 last year -- but he's the best player left on the board and the type of guy who could immediately give Phoenix a very different but dominant look in the paint.
14. Utah
Jeremy Lamb
Position: SG
Height: 6-foot-5
Weight: 185 pounds
Age: 19
School: UConn
Analysis: Lamb has elite talent, but his laid-back demeanor has given some scouts pause. Higher in the draft, he's a bit of a risk. But down here he's a good bargain for the Jazz as they continue to rebuild their backcourt.
15. Houston (via Knicks)
John Henson
Position: PF
Height: 6-foot-10
Weight: 210 pounds
Age: 21
School: North Carolina
Analysis: The Rockets lack long, athletic bigs, and Henson would give them a defensive presence who can guard both forward positions. He's still raw offensively, but he has a little Andrei Kirilenko in his game.
16. New Jersey (via Rockets)
Quincy Miller
Position: SF
Height: 6-foot-9
Weight: 210 pounds
Age: 19
School: Baylor
Analysis: Miller is another player on this list who might be better off returning to school. He's a blue-chip talent, but with another year to heal from an ACL tear in high school and more time in the weight room to bulk up a bit, he could go 10 spots higher in next year's draft. If he stays in the draft, the Nets won't let him slip too far.
17. Boston
Terrence Jones
Position: PF
Height: 6-foot-8
Weight: 244 pounds
Age: 20
School: Kentucky
Analysis: Jones is one of those players with top-five talent who doesn't play like it on a consistent basis. That is a gamble the Celtics should be willing to take at this spot in the draft. They did the same thing a few years ago with Rajon Rondo and it paid off big. The similarity between the two? Both players believed in their games, even when their coaches didn't. Jones could be the second coming of Antoine Walker.
18. Denver
Meyers Leonard
Position: C
Height: 7-foot-0
Weight: 240 pounds
Age: 20
School: Illinois
Analysis: The Nuggets traded Nene for JaVale McGee, but they could still use more size in the middle. Leonard is pretty raw, but he's a terrific athlete who can play good defense right away.
19. Atlanta
Tony Wroten Jr.
Position: PG
Height: 6-foot-5
Weight: 205 pounds
Age: 18
School: Washington
Analysis: The Hawks have been searching for their point guard of the future for a long time. Jeff Teague has been solid, but he doesn't have nearly the upside that Wroten has. If Wroten had a better reputation (and a better jump shot) he might be a top-five pick. Some scouts see him as another Gary Payton, but he's wild and can get out of control, and that may scare the Hawks away.
20. Philadelphia
Andrew Nicholson
Position: PF
Height: 6-foot-9
Weight: 222 pounds
Age: 22
School: St. Bonaventure
Analysis: The Sixers still could use size. Elton Brand won't be around forever and the team's next 4 off the bench is Lavoy Allen. Nicholson has gotten dramatically better every year and has some David West to his game. He would be a good fit in Philly and could contribute right away.
21. Houston (via Mavericks)
Austin Rivers
Position: SG
Height: 6-foot-4
Weight: 199 pounds
Age: 19
School: Duke
Analysis: The Mavericks sent this pick to the Lakers as part of the Lamar Odom trade and then the Lakers turned around and sent it to the Rockets as part of the Derek Fisher deal. The pick is top-20 protected.
There are a lot of opinions floating out there about Rivers. Many scouts have been disappointed with his play and think he needs to return to Duke for his sophomore season. But a handful think he has the potential to be special thanks to his quick crossover, high basketball IQ and killer mentality on the court. At pick No. 21, the upside-to-risk ratio strongly favors the Rockets, who really need to build around some star power.
22. Memphis
Patric Young
Position: C
Height: 6-foot-9
Weight: 245 pounds
Age: 20
School: Florida
Analysis: The Grizzlies are looking for toughness and defense in the frontcourt, and Young brings both. He doesn't do much of anything on the offensive end, but he has Ben Wallace-like potential on the defensive end of the floor. Young has stated that he'll be returning to Florida for his junior season. If that's true, St. Bonaventure's Andrew Nicholson or Mississippi State's Arnett Moultrie could get the call here.
23. Indiana
Terrence Ross
Position: SG
Height: 6-foot-6
Weight: 190 pounds
Age: 21
School: Washington
Analysis: The Pacers are really stacked just about everywhere, so they'll take the best talent on the board. Ross is both an excellent athlete and a terrific shooter. He has some star power to his game, he just hasn't totally harnessed it yet.
24. Boston (via Clippers)
Arnett Moultrie
Position: PF
Height: 6-foot-11
Weight: 225 pounds
Age: 21
School: Mississippi State
Analysis: Moultrie has all the physical tools to be a dominant NBA player. He's long and super-athletic, and he can even get things done on the perimeter. He's just taken a little longer to develop. He would be a good get here for the Celtics.
25. Orlando
C.J. Leslie
Position: PF
Height: 6-foot-8
Weight: 206 pounds
Age: 20
School: NC State
Analysis: Leslie may be one of the best athletes in the draft. He's still stuck a little bit between the 3 and the 4, but his game has really matured over the past few months. He's a top-10 talent and worth the risk here.
Cleveland (via Lakers)
26. Jeff Taylor
Position: SF
Height: 6-foot-7
Weight: 225 pounds
Age: 22
School: Vanderbilt
Analysis: Taylor is another elite athlete who can play way above the rim. What he's lacked for most of his career is a great jump shot. But Taylor has improved dramatically in that area lately, making him a lethal weapon on both ends of the floor. The Cavs really need help at the 3, making him a nice match.
27. Golden State(via Spurs)
Dion Waiters
Position: SG
Height: 6-foot-4
Weight: 215 pounds
Age: 20
School: Syracuse
Analysis: The Warriors lost one of the most relentless drivers in the game when they shipped Monta Ellis off to Milwaukee. Waiters would be able to fill some of that void as an electric scorer off the bench.
28. Miami
Draymond Green
Position: SF
Height: 6-foot-6
Weight: 235 pounds
Age: 22
School: Michigan State
Analysis: The Heat need players with experience who excel in bringing out the best in their teammates. Green can be a point-forward type who does a little bit of everything. Think of him as a better-passing Udonis Haslem.
29. Oklahoma City
Mason Plumlee
Position: PF
Height: 6-foot-10
Weight: 230 pounds
Age: 22
School: Duke
Analysis: Plumlee's upside is probably similar to that of the Pacers' Jeff Foster. While he won't be a dominant player on either end of the floor, he's big, he'll defend and he'll flush things around the rim.
30. Chicago
Moe Harkless
Position: SF
Height: 6-foot-8
Weight: 190 pounds
Age: 18
School: St. John's
Analysis: Harkless reminds me a little of Trevor Ariza. He is a terrific scorer and defender who needs to get a more settled jump shot. Although the Bulls need a shooter, Harkless would be tough to pass up here if he's still on the board.
Next Five In: Tony Mitchell, North Texas; Royce White, Iowa State; BJ Young, Arkansas; C.J. McCollum, Lehigh; Josh Smith, UCLA.
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Thanx für den kleinen Überblick. Klar hats relativ wenig Aussagekraft aber Stand der Dinge ist Drummond gaaanz schön abgerutscht....Sry aber kann mir nicht vorstellen das der erst an 6 gezogen wird.Nach Davis wird er der zweitbeste Big-Men sein..Von Jared Sullinger möchte ich erst gar nicht reden der ja im letzten Jahr als Top-3 Pick im Gespräch war. Mal gucken Sullinger ist für mich eigentlich sehr sehr nahe am Bust..Aber alles in allem stufe ich diesen Draftjahrgang (auch wenn paar Experten das bestreiten) nach wie vor als sehr stark ein..Einzig und allein die PG - Position ist dieses Jahr sehr schwach bestückt beim Draft ansonsten sehr tiefer Draft..
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Beal ist meiner Meinung nach etwas zu hoch, Drummond etwas zu weit unten. Ob die Jazz Lillard einem Marshall, Rivers oder Lamb vorziehen würden, darf bewzeifelt werden. Ich sehe in ihn jedenfalls kein überragendes Talent, seine tollen Stats sind nur Schönwischerei in einem eher schwachen Team. Aber da Kabongo zurückkehren wird und Teague wohlmöglich noch ein weiteres Jahr dranhängen wird/will, denke ich das Lillard in sicherer Top-20 Pick sein wird. Gute PGs sind rar in diesem Draft.
Bei McAdoo bin ich gespannt, ob er sich anmeldet. Spielt bisher ein gutes Turnier, aber nächstes Jahr hätte er die Chance der ultimative Starspieler der Tar Heels zu sein und seinen Wert nochmal zu steigern, wenn Marshall, Zeller, Henson und Barnes sich zum Draft anmelden.
Sehe auch sonst Harkless, Rivers und Waiters allesamt in den Top 20.
Bei McAdoo bin ich gespannt, ob er sich anmeldet. Spielt bisher ein gutes Turnier, aber nächstes Jahr hätte er die Chance der ultimative Starspieler der Tar Heels zu sein und seinen Wert nochmal zu steigern, wenn Marshall, Zeller, Henson und Barnes sich zum Draft anmelden.
Sehe auch sonst Harkless, Rivers und Waiters allesamt in den Top 20.
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Beal ist mMn nicht zu hoch, es ist halt eine Frage des Bedarfs. Aber wenn Brad Beal sich anmeldet, gehört er trotz seines jungen Alters mit Davis, Gilchrist und Lillard zu den Spielern, die am ehesten NBA-ready scheinen. Aber natürlich - wenn die Teams auf 4-8 Bedarf an Spielern auf den Positionen 3-5 haben sollten, ist Beal auch nicht sooo viel besser, dass man ihn jedem anderem vorziehen müsste.
Carolina muss ohne Barnes, Henson, Zeller und Marshall auskommen - auch McAdoo hält sich seine Option noch offen. Dafür wird UNC dann voll mit Flügelspielern sein: Strickland, Hairston, McDonald und Bullock. Dürfte ein seltsames Jahr werden.
Carolina muss ohne Barnes, Henson, Zeller und Marshall auskommen - auch McAdoo hält sich seine Option noch offen. Dafür wird UNC dann voll mit Flügelspielern sein: Strickland, Hairston, McDonald und Bullock. Dürfte ein seltsames Jahr werden.
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Beal wird jetzt auf ESPN mit 6-5 angegeben. Das würde erklären, warum er in einigen Mocks aufgestiegen ist. Die Entscheidungen der ganz großen Fische im Draft stehen noch aus, da wird man wohl bis zum Ende des Meisterschaftsspiel warten.
hier mal der aktuelle Stand:
http://www.nbadraft.net/2012-early-entry-list
hier mal der aktuelle Stand:
http://www.nbadraft.net/2012-early-entry-list
Sullinger vs. T-Rob (und Jeff Withey, der ein ganz toller 2nd Round Steal ist) 5-19 FG und ein Haufen Blocked Attempts. Altes Problem: er spielt below the rim und man muß kein Prophet sein, dass er gerade auf dem Pro-Level eine Menge geblockt werden wird. Mal schauen, ob sich dieser Flop gegen NBA-Competition erneut auf seinen Stock auswirkt. Zuletzt war er ja wieder am Steigen.
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Jeff Withey ist kein 2nd-Round Steal. Wenn man nur eine Sache gut kann, hat man im besten Fall eine Zukunft als Role Player, mehr nicht. Withey hat kein Offense-Game, das diese Bezeichnung verdient. Was für billige Würfe der im Final Four vergeben hat...
Starker Shot-Blocker, reiner Positionsrebounder, zero Offense. Sollte mMn sein Senior-Jahr wahrnehmen und im Sommer hardcore an seinen Low-Post-Moves und seinem Mitteldistanzwurf arbeiten. Wenn er schon die Räume, die Thomas Robinson ihm gegeben hat, so wenig genutzt hat, dürfte es nächstes Jahr eine noch größere Herausforderung sein. Withey hat im Tournament weniger als 50% aus dem Feld geworfen, und da dürfte kaum ein Wurf aus mehr als 2 Meter Korbentfernung dabei gewesen sein. Wenn man das starke Spiel gegen Carolina rausrechnet, hatte er insgesamt im Tourney sogar nur 35% aus dem Feld.
Beal wurde auch seinerzeit in Hamburg schon mit 6-5 gelistet - stimmen tut das aber trotzdem nicht. ;-) Ist aber auch wumpe, denn Ray Allen, Dwyane Wade und Eric Gordon sind auch alle unter 6-4 ohne Schuhe. Ich glaube nicht mehr, dass 1-2 Inches ein limitierender Faktor sind...erst recht nicht bei einer Physis, wie Beal sie hat.
Starker Shot-Blocker, reiner Positionsrebounder, zero Offense. Sollte mMn sein Senior-Jahr wahrnehmen und im Sommer hardcore an seinen Low-Post-Moves und seinem Mitteldistanzwurf arbeiten. Wenn er schon die Räume, die Thomas Robinson ihm gegeben hat, so wenig genutzt hat, dürfte es nächstes Jahr eine noch größere Herausforderung sein. Withey hat im Tournament weniger als 50% aus dem Feld geworfen, und da dürfte kaum ein Wurf aus mehr als 2 Meter Korbentfernung dabei gewesen sein. Wenn man das starke Spiel gegen Carolina rausrechnet, hatte er insgesamt im Tourney sogar nur 35% aus dem Feld.
Beal wurde auch seinerzeit in Hamburg schon mit 6-5 gelistet - stimmen tut das aber trotzdem nicht. ;-) Ist aber auch wumpe, denn Ray Allen, Dwyane Wade und Eric Gordon sind auch alle unter 6-4 ohne Schuhe. Ich glaube nicht mehr, dass 1-2 Inches ein limitierender Faktor sind...erst recht nicht bei einer Physis, wie Beal sie hat.